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Old 07-18-2013, 11:22 AM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Originally Posted by shooting4life View Post
You didn't get it, your parents did. Though I highly doubt you have your original birth certificate and even if you did, you have to provide certified copies to many government agencies when you claim social security.

Do you think people are being disenfranchised because they cannot get married without ID?
How about traveling by air plane?
Opening a bank account?
Getting a loan?
Cashing a check?
Purchasing a gun?
Apply for welfare?
Purchase alcohol?
Rent an apartment?
Pick up mail?
Huh? You do know that disenfranchised means specifically to lose the right to vote, right?

How would you lose the right to vote by doing any of those things?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:26 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Huh? You do know that disenfranchised means specifically to lose the right to vote, right?

How would you lose the right to vote by doing any of those things?
You cannot do any of those things without ID, some of which are also civil rights.

And disenfranchised encompasses more than voting, though that is what it is most closely associated with
From Merriam-Webster
to deprive of a franchise, of a legal right, or of some privilege or immunity ; especially : to deprive of the right to vote
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I wonder how all those old people even get social security or Medicare without an ID. Surprised all the disenfranchises old people are not dieing in the streets without benifits because they cannot get proper ID.
But it is ok to require me to show ID and secondary proof of residence when buying a gun and pay a fee, that isn't disenfranchisement at all. Think about all the old people on nursing homes that cannot buy a gun because they don't have ID.
Actually. Yes.
My mother was a PA resident.
She had a birth certificate, social security card and a voter card. Period.
Never had a license or a passport.

Next.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Actually. Yes.
My mother was a PA resident.
She had a birth certificate, social security card and a voter card. Period.
Never had a license or a passport.

Next.
Next would be addressing the second paragraph, which you missed for some odd reason
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:05 PM
 
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Before you start crying about the source-- Watched the video. What Republican leader Robert Gleason said is factual. Now unless you believe 5% of the electorate was voting fraudulently (in which case you're insane), I think the Republicans have yet another credibility problem on this issue.
Except for one minor detail, the voter ID was suspended right before the election.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:09 PM
 
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let's not forget voter ID, adding a fee onto that no less?
There is not a single state with voter ID that does not have provisions for obtaining a free one.

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Oh wait, and gerrymandering, don't forget that one as well.
Complain all you want but both sides are guilty.

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Old 07-18-2013, 12:16 PM
 
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It should be noted that this thread was merged.

The original thread was about Mike Taurazi admitting that voter suppression efforts of the Republican party.
Mr. Taurazi's comments were 100% inline with GOP's position of rampant voter fraud.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:17 PM
 
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You apply for social security when you're 62, 65, or 67, not when you're (usually) in a nursing home. Medicare is at 65. You don't need an ID, to receive it, by the way.

Perhaps a local community college has a civics course you can take?
While on the topic of nursing homes and colleges their ID's are both valid forms of ID to vote in PA.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: USA
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and the sucker still lost lol.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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GOP's position of rampant voter fraud.
Seems to sum it up for me too.
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