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Old 06-30-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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In September 2004, the Pennsylvania Republican Party sent a letter to 130,000 newly registered voters in Philadelphia urging them to vote Republican. However, about 10,000 of these cards came back as returned mail as the address did not exist and/or no one by the voter’s name lived at the address on the envelope. Republicans soon discovered that many of the addresses listed for new registrants were in fact vacant lots and boarded-up buildings. In one sample of 100 registrants, 15 turned out to be dead.

At least some of these faulty registrations may have come from voter registration drives, as some Pennsylvania residents complained that ACORN was deliberately putting inaccurate information on their registration forms.



Why shouldn't that be stopped by having voter ID? Why are you fine with this?
Where`s the voter fraud?
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Old 06-30-2012, 04:45 PM
 
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Where`s the voter fraud?
Being covered up by the Dems - we know there is fraud in registering to vote - and the Dems don't want us to be able to check for fraud in voting. Solid majority of the state wants it justifiably so.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:12 PM
 
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I am sure I can believe that... how else do u get an unpopular candidate who does not have the votes to win except u play dirty and suppress votes. It is so un-American and bad sportsmanship. I hope this evil does not prevail. Everyone should have their say in the voting booth and it should be as easy as making a phone call to vote. In my opinion
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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I am sure I can believe that... how else do u get an unpopular candidate who does not have the votes to win except u play dirty and suppress votes. It is so un-American and bad sportsmanship. I hope this evil does not prevail. Everyone should have their say in the voting booth and it should be as easy as making a phone call to vote. In my opinion
Every legitimate voter should have their say - we get that through voter IDs. Why shouldn't the polling stations have proof of who you say you are?

Less than 1% of the state does not have an ID. They all can get free state issued IDs. The less than 1% that do not have ID tend to come from demographics that do not vote in large numbers. And not all of that group would vote for the Democrats. We are literally talking about LESS than a 0.1% swing to the Republicans if ALL of this less than 1% choose not to get a free ID so they can vote, this is just Democrat whining...two thirds of the state supports IDs to vote.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:10 AM
 
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Being covered up by the Dems - we know there is fraud in registering to vote - and the Dems don't want us to be able to check for fraud in voting. Solid majority of the state wants it justifiably so.
It's there because you feel it's there? That's some strong truthiness you have going-on.

This is a solution in search of a problem. However, assuming that voter fraud is occurring in PA beyond the TWO confirmed cases of people voting twice in an election, why the sudden concern so close to THIS particular election?
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:16 AM
 
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It's there because you feel it's there? That's some strong truthiness you have going-on.

This is a solution in search of a problem. However, assuming that voter fraud is occurring in PA beyond the TWO confirmed cases of people voting twice in an election, why the sudden concern so close to THIS particular election?
We know that voter registration fraud happened in large numbers at least 10,000 for 2008 in PA. We aren't really allowed to find voter fraud if we can't check IDs. What is the point for people registering names falsely if they won't use those false registers to vote?

It is completely illogical the Democratic position.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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We know that voter registration fraud happened in large numbers at least 10,000 for 2008 in PA. We aren't really allowed to find voter fraud if we can't check IDs. What is the point for people registering names falsely if they won't use those false registers to vote?

It is completely illogical the Democratic position.
Voter registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. And there hasn't been a single prosecution of the later. While I am not personally against voter identification in principle, the government cannot compel you to produce identification papers. Much less in the pursuit of exercising a constitutionally protected right.

The states AGs would be going after the proprietary software used in electronic voting machines if they were truly concerned about rampant voter fraud. That's your real opportunity to illegally swing an election, not some person voting twice under two different registrations.
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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Voter registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. And there hasn't been a single prosecution of the later. While I am not personally against voter identification in principle, the government cannot compel you to produce identification papers. Much less in the pursuit of exercising a constitutionally protected right.

The states AGs would be going after the proprietary software used in electronic voting machines if they were truly concerned about rampant voter fraud. That's your real opportunity to illegally swing an election, not some person voting twice under two different registrations.
We also need to go after electronic vote counting machines - good point.

Several states require voter ID, no court has struck it down.

75% of Americans want it. Less than 1% of voters don't have ID, they all can get free IDs.

Why would you register tens of thousands fraudulent names to vote if you didn't intend on using any of them? The Democrat answer is insane. They registered them for no reason and you can't check to see if voter fraud is happening with falsely registered names or anywhere else.
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Old 07-21-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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Look folks all of you seem to be fairly inteeligent people. What I need to know is how many of you have and apply common sense when posting about these topics. Ofcourse it is to help Romney win the election. All of the legislatures acroos the country who are proposing changing guidelines for voting are REPUBLICAN majority legislatures. All of a sudden they want to purge the voting rolls of fraud. They cannot show, IN ANY STATE, FACTUAL evidence of widespread voter fraud. If these people did not want to disenfanchise poor minority people they could have made it so people who wanted to vote could get a copy of their birth certificates and a state ID for a discounted rate. Thats like Scott Walker saying he needed to curb unions for the fiscal welfare of Wisconsin but he does not go after the Unions that vote and give money to Republicans. It's just pure hypocracy and you people are falling for it hook line and sinker!
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:03 PM
 
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Something to think about: Why did the Democrats so obsessively and maliciously pursue Richard Nixon over the Watergate scandal? Was it because they believed bugging their convention would ruin McGovern's chances of victory in the election? Was it because the GOP found out secrets that would ruin the Democratic Party forever? Was there material uncovered that would create a serious threat to national security? Or was there a higher, nobler cause in their single-minded pursuit of a standing President?

No on all counts. The Democrat witch hunt against Nixon was all about the R next to his name and the D next to theirs. Democrats wanted to unseat Nixon because he was a Republican. His guilt or lack thereof was the excuse and not the real reason. The Republicans would have done the same thing to a Democrat without a second thought. And if Eric Holder was the Attorney General for a standing Republican president, the Democrats would mercilessly and obsessively pursue the "Fast and Furious" scandal.

And be honest. The biggest reason you're sticking up for Holder is because of the D next to his name. You would not be so charitable to a Republican with the same scandal hanging over them.

This is why selling your soul to either party is just stupid. It destroys your ability to use your brain fully when it comes to politics.
It's interesting that you failed to mention the Watergate break-in and other actions surrounding it, including efforts to cover it up were totally illegal.
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