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Old 07-29-2012, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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No because it's a fact.

Ask Albert Einstein.
What's a fact?

Albert Einstein didn't vote for Obama nor McCain, because he died in 1955. I am not sure of why you brought Albert Einstein into the discussion about politics, because Einstein, as a liberal and anti=capitalist, doesn't help your argument that conservatives know best.


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A rarity would be you admitting that you could possibly be wrong.
Obviously I COULD be wrong. Nobody is infallible. I just have a good track record of being right.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:24 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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What's a fact?


Obviously I COULD be wrong. Nobody is infallible. I just have a good track record of being right.
Only in your own mind
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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What's a fact?

I am not sure of why you brought Albert Einstein into the discussion about politics

Albert Einstein:

"Insanity is doing the same things again and again expecting different results."


I asked if you were voting for Obama again.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:19 AM
 
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Albert Einstein:

"Insanity is doing the same things again and again expecting different results."


I asked if you were voting for Obama again.
The results that you speak of must include the fact that President Obama inherited an economy that was losing 800,000 jobs per month and in the midst of deflation. That has all been reversed. But it is taking longer than we want to get back to full employment. It's easy to wreck a car but it takes longer to repair it.

I take it that you expect Mr. Romney to make the recovery faster? What policies has Mr. Romney put forth, besides platitudes, to actually make that happen? He wants to lower taxes; cut the deficit and cut regulations and government spending.

If he succeeds in cutting taxes, that would make the deficit higher.
If he succeeds in cutting government spending during a weak economy, he'll make the economy weaker.

Moreover, one can't possibly cut spending enough and lower taxes that will result in a balanced budget without cruel cuts to programs most people use, like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid.

Cutting regulations? Which ones? There is no serious belief that regulations have been a drag on the economy.

Oh, all of those policies were Bush policies. How did that work out?
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:23 AM
 
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Kristol is a political analyst and commentator and founder and editor of the The Weekly Standard.

Apart from being a journalist, which implies objective reporting, Kristol has a conservative agenda and promotes that agenda regardless of objective facts.

The fact that Kristol spins a statement to what he wants you to think it means, instead of what it actually means, is not news. That's what he does.

Kristol was the #1 cheerleader for the Iraq War.

A little advice, don't take anything William Kristol says at face value.

On the statement,


Are we really getting another minced words, "what is, "is?""

It's like you guys on the right expect the words used in an interview to meet the same standards as fine literature.

You guys are so anxious to catch a Democrat in a gotcha, that you obsess about a minor phrase as if it has any consequence at all. Who cares if Obama went to Israel or didn't go to Israel?

It was clear to me that Pelosi was talking about the policy and not physically going to Israel but if you think she said something else, what difference does it make? I wish the right was so emphatic about truth when Bush said (falsely) in the prepared State of the Union address that Iraq bought nuclear material from Niger. Of course, they couldn't be concerned with that baldfaced lie.
This is what i wanna know? Why are right wingers SO DAMN FASCINATED BY ISRAEL????
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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The results that you speak of must include the fact that President Obama inherited an economy that was losing 800,000 jobs per month and in the midst of deflation. That has all been reversed. But it is taking longer than we want to get back to full employment. It's easy to wreck a car but it takes longer to repair it.
You don't even believe Obama when he says something do you? He said it in 2009 and I am taking him at his word...don't you?

"I will be held accountable"

"If I don't have this done in 3 years"





Are you repeating a mistake hoping for a different outcome?
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:45 AM
 
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You don't even believe Obama when he says something do you? He said it in 2009 and I am taking him at his word...don't you?

"I will be held accountable"

"If I don't have this done in 3 years"



Are you repeating a mistake hoping for a different outcome?
I don't make much of this. Bush said he was going to cut the deficit in half too. Politicians say things to get elected. While it is important to review their promise it doesn't mean much when there were events that the candidate could not control -- like an economy much weaker than what we knew of during the campaign.

I suggest that instead of searching the internet for gochas, compare the policy differences between the candidates. One wants to lower taxes for the middle-class while the other one only cares about the rich; one wants to maintain Medicare and Social Security the way they are and the other wants to turn them into voucher programs.


The central theme of the Romney campaign is based entirely on cynical lies about what the sitting president has said. No, Obama hasn’t apologized for America; no, he hasn’t denigrated achievement. Yet take away those claims, and there’s nothing left in Romney’s rhetoric. Take that all away and we have the same policies that GW Bush advocated.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It’s always silly season when Nancy Pelosi deigns to address the peons.

But what are we to make of this complete bald-faced lie?

Bill Kristol writes:

[url="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pelosi-republican-jews-being-exploited_649077.html"]
The woman has no qualms whatsoever to get in front of a camera and tell a lie.
The MSM never calls her out on it and she's never held accountable or confronted with her lies on camera.

The corruption runs deep in America. It's become BAU.

You can't tell the truth from the lies anymore.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:02 AM
 
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I don't make much of this. Bush said he was going to cut the deficit in half too. Politicians say things to get elected. While it is important to review their promise it doesn't mean much when there were events that the candidate could not control -- like an economy much weaker than what we knew of during the campaign.

I suggest that instead of searching the internet for gochas, compare the policy differences between the candidates. One wants to lower taxes for the middle-class while the other one only cares about the rich; one wants to maintain Medicare and Social Security the way they are and the other wants to turn them into voucher programs.


The central theme of the Romney campaign is based entirely on cynical lies about what the sitting president has said. No, Obama hasn’t apologized for America; no, he hasn’t denigrated achievement. Yet take away those claims, and there’s nothing left in Romney’s rhetoric. Take that all away and we have the same policies that GW Bush advocated.

1.5% GDP Growth Rate was released Friday.

Do you realize that during The Great Depression, the growth rate was 6 times HIGHER than now?

You KNOW your not better off than you were when he took office.

The CBO and Ernst & Young have already said that his policies would lead to slower growth, a loss of 700,000 jobs, and a higher deficit.

BTW...he said that in 2009...when he was FULLY AWARE of how bad the economy was. He also enjoyed 2 years of a majority in Congress, but wasted it on other stuff that Americans opposed instead of unemployment and the economy.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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Does anyone really pay any attention to that lying bit##.
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