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We are almost saying the same thing. Cruz was born in Calgary Canada, Obama was born in Hawaii, the right have some how come up with some contorted logic to explain how Cruz can qualify to be President while the rightwing birthers are still maintaining Obama was born in Kenya and doesnt Qualify to be President.
Bottom line President Obama will serve 2 terms as President, Cruz will never even get close.
As for left wing birthers? i've never heard of such a movement, where have you heard about it?
Read the post from HeyJude, he says there are no right and left wing birthers. I understand exactly what you are saying. Again, check the postings right here on CD. yes, there is a group here saying he isn't eligible. Even when how he is has been explained. Do you really think, if he decides to run you won't see left wingers coming out of the wall to try and prove he isn't el0gible? They have even tried to say Rubio isn't or they did last year and many claimed McCain wasn't. This works on both sides.
Which hard core bithers are you talking about? You know darn well, those who are questioning Cruz are on one side of the fence and those who questioned Obama's birth certificate were or are on the other. Just look around here, go back to the post questioned Cruz's citizenship, see who responded. Of course there is no birther organization, but sides are and will be taken.
Not true, Nita, and you repeating it again and again will not make it true. Those who are questioning Cruz's eligibility are the same hardcore birthers who refuse to accept Obama's eligibility. Show me left wing posters who are saying Cruz is not eligible. I mean that sincerely. I can find none. There was a thread begun here at C-D a while back asking specifically for evidence that the left was going after Cruz's eligibility and no one could provide any:
There are other threads. None of them show what you claim they do.
I am very much plugged into the birther scene, and have seen no one on the left making this claim unless it's done, as I said, to poke fun at birthers. I do see, however, a whole lot of Obama eligibility deniers taking up the birther cause against Cruz. I would be happy to provide links if you doubt that. I'm certain you won't find comparable links on the left, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Show me, or admit that the whole birther thing is a RWNJ issue, as we all know it is.
Read the post from HeyJude, he says there are no right and left wing birthers. I understand exactly what you are saying. Again, check the postings right here on CD. yes, there is a group here saying he isn't eligible. Even when how he is has been explained. Do you really think, if he decides to run you won't see left wingers coming out of the wall to try and prove he isn't el0gible? They have even tried to say Rubio isn't or they did last year and many claimed McCain wasn't. This works on both sides.
Prove what you're saying. Show us the links of left wingers going birther on Cruz or Rubio. You can't because no one on the left is claiming any such thing. But both Cruz and Rubio have been declared ineligible already by birthers. Again, you saying it doesn't make it true.
Read the post from HeyJude, he says there are no right and left wing birthers. I understand exactly what you are saying. Again, check the postings right here on CD. yes, there is a group here saying he isn't eligible. Even when how he is has been explained. Do you really think, if he decides to run you won't see left wingers coming out of the wall to try and prove he isn't el0gible? They have even tried to say Rubio isn't or they did last year and many claimed McCain wasn't. This works on both sides.
I checked the posts and I wouldnt call people on the left questioning Cruz's eligibility to run for President birthers, its more the left trying to understand the double standard the right has been using that allows Cruz who was born outside the USA to run for President but Obama is ineligible due to the birther claims that he also may have been born outside the USA.
The left basically doesnt care if Cruz runs, if he's deemed eligible by all means go for it Ted, best of luck..
Yeah. Just like Michele Bachmann had her boot on Democratic throats, or Ron Paul. [MOD CUT]
Cruz is Joe McCarthy reincarnated, with the same mouthful of lies and the same high doggish whine in his voice. The only difference between him and Tailgunner Joe is slightly better grooming and the lack of gin blossoms all over his face.
He is nothing but the dying death rattle of the teabaggers. Don't expect him to be a 2nd term Senator.
I am very much plugged into the birther scene, and have seen no one on the left making this claim unless it's done, as I said, to poke fun at birthers. I do see, however, a whole lot of Obama eligibility deniers taking up the birther cause against Cruz. I would be happy to provide links if you doubt that. I'm certain you won't find comparable links on the left, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Show me, or admit that the whole birther thing is a RWNJ issue, as we all know it is.
This is what I don't understand. Why would anyone be plugged into the birther scene? It's a small group that distracts from what matters, which is policy.
If it is the same people then that's good since party doesn't matter. From what I've heard there are very few that support the notion of Cruz being ineligible. In all the face to face discussions I've had no one has brought it up Obamas' or Cruzs' eligibility.
I checked the posts and I wouldnt call people on the left questioning Cruz's eligibility to run for President birthers, its more the left trying to understand the double standard the right has been using that allows Cruz who was born outside the USA to run for President but Obama is ineligible due to the birther claims that he also may have been born outside the USA.
The left basically doesnt care if Cruz runs, if he's deemed eligible by all means go for it Ted, best of luck..
ok, maybe I am using the term too loosely, but the term "birthers" is a new one anyone or so it appears. That is why the computer doesn't recognize the word for spelling purposes. Regardless, and hey Jude has proven this, though he doesn't want to admit it, the left is and will continue to claim Cruz is not eligible to run. We can call it what we want, I guess it doesn't really matter.
ok, maybe I am using the term too loosely, but the term "birthers" is a new one anyone or so it appears. That is why the computer doesn't recognize the word for spelling purposes. Regardless, and hey Jude has proven this, though he doesn't want to admit it, the left is and will continue to claim Cruz is not eligible to run. We can call it what we want, I guess it doesn't really matter.
You just will not admit it, will you? There is no concerted effort on the Left to deny Cruz the opportunity to run, unlike the Right. There are currently republican members in congress, that still deny that Obama is legitimate. So stop, Nita, you are just dead wrong in this instance. But I know, anytime someone calls out republicans you pipe up and defend them or you say dems do the same thing.
You just will not admit it, will you? There is no concerted effort on the Left to deny Cruz the opportunity to run, unlike the Right. There are currently republican members in congress, that still deny that Obama is legitimate. So stop, Nita, you are just dead wrong in this instance. But I know, anytime someone calls out republicans you pipe up and defend them or you say dems do the same thing.
Yep, I sure do, and why? because it is true. I don't care which side you are on, both sides do what they can to bring down the other side, that is how politics are played, like it or not. If you have read many of my posts you would know, I have said the same thing on the other side. I have said Republicans do it to the Democrats as well. Now, as far as I am concerned this issue is dead, at least for now. This post started out comparing Cruz with Sharon Angle and look where it is now? Talk about off topic, wow!!!!
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Originally Posted by HeyJude514 I am very much plugged into the birther scene, and have seen no one on the left making this claim unless it's done, as I said, to poke fun at birthers. I do see, however, a whole lot of Obama eligibility deniers taking up the birther cause against Cruz. I would be happy to provide links if you doubt that. I'm certain you won't find comparable links on the left, but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Show me, or admit that the whole birther thing is a RWNJ issue, as we all know it is.
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