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Old 09-12-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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...like the Senate will become Republican. At least, if you go by the polls.

You asked for gridlock, you'll get it, America. It actually makes more sense that the Senate is Republican, since states with small populations are disproporionately represented, and most of those small pop. states are red.

But it doesn't make much sense that that an electorate that put Obama in office also elected a Republican House.

Anyway, we'll see who blinks first on the Bush tax breaks for those making over 200K when it comes to the "cliff".
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The chances of the Republicans taking the Senate have dimmed considerably. Scott Brown is in a very close fight for his seat, Olympia Snowe's open seat race is neck and neck, and Todd Akin's stupidity appears to have lost the race to McCaskill, who gained a 12 point bounce.

One Democrat winner is all it will take to keep the Democratic majority, but the Repubs need 4 to take over. Given Romney's inept performance, the Repub chances are looking increasingly remote.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:35 PM
 
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...like the Senate will become Republican. At least, if you go by the polls.

You asked for gridlock, you'll get it, America. It actually makes more sense that the Senate is Republican, since states with small populations are disproporionately represented, and most of those small pop. states are red.

But it doesn't make much sense that that an electorate that put Obama in office also elected a Republican House.

Anyway, we'll see who blinks first on the Bush tax breaks for those making over 200K when it comes to the "cliff".
That's not at all unusual. In six of the last eleven Presidential election years, the party that lost the White House has won the House of Representatives. The Senate more often correlates with the Presidency, being won/held by the President's party in seven of those eleven Presidential election years.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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.........But it doesn't make much sense that that an electorate that put Obama in office also elected a Republican House.
The Republican House tidal wave in 2010 represented the desire of the vast middle of America to slow down or halt the Obama agenda and methodology, which did not turn out as they were hoping back in 2008. It makes perfect sense.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:45 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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The Republican House tidal wave in 2010 represented the desire of the vast middle of America to slow down or halt the Obama agenda and methodology, which did not turn out as they were hoping back in 2008. It makes perfect sense.
Then how come their approval rating is at an all-time low... 10% (even lower in fact than when the tea party congress took over in 2010)?!!
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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I thought the Senate would go Republican this cycle, but it looks like it will either be 50-50 or maybe a 51 seat majority for Democrats. The House looks safe for Republicans. I think Obama will win. I really wish Democrats and Republicans would view this as sign we need compromise and deal making, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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The chances of the Republicans taking the Senate have dimmed considerably. Scott Brown is in a very close fight for his seat, Olympia Snowe's open seat race is neck and neck, and Todd Akin's stupidity appears to have lost the race to McCaskill, who gained a 12 point bounce.

One Democrat winner is all it will take to keep the Democratic majority, but the Repubs need 4 to take over. Given Romney's inept performance, the Repub chances are looking increasingly remote.
Actually, independent Angus King -- who will almost certainly caucus with the Democrats -- has a commanding lead.
United States Senate election in Maine, 2012 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The GOP has started throwing money at the race lately, but that's probably more a sign of desperation now that they've written off Akin's race than having any realistic hope of winning it.

ME will likely be a Democratic pickup. NE is a safe GOP pickup. That leaves four (if Romney wins) or five (if Obama wins) more seats the GOP needs to flip to seize the Senate, while also holding all the rest of their seats, such as MA and NV (and IN and AZ, according to some polls, but those are likely safe). If Romney wins, they can definitely do it -- winning Presidents have coattails. But if Romney loses? Then it is very unlikely.

Since Amendment XVII established universal direction of Senators, there have been 24 Presidential elections. The party of the winning candidate has only once suffered a net loss of 4 Senate seats, in 2000. Of course, in that election the Senate and the Presidency did break in the same direction in terms of votes. The reason is that toss-ups tend to break in the same direction, with the candidate getting the most votes at the head of the ticket.

Unless Obama wins the Electoral College but loses the popular vote (unlikely -- but, interestingly, 538's simulations has the odds of that happening at 2.3% as of this morning) the Democrats are almost certainly not going to both hold the Presidency and lose the Senate. Either could happen, but the odds of them both happening are vanishingly small.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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The Republican House tidal wave in 2010 represented the desire of the vast middle of America to slow down or halt the Obama agenda and methodology, which did not turn out as they were hoping back in 2008. It makes perfect sense.
That is definitely right, that tidal wave certainly brought Congress to a halt, now Congress does little to nothing.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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That is definitely right, that tidal wave certainly brought Congress to a halt, now Congress does little to nothing.
You're wrong. Congress is now focusing on job creation. Focusing on abortion, birth control, and Chic-fil-a is going to bring the economy roaring back to life.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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You're wrong. Congress is now focusing on job creation. Focusing on abortion, birth control, and Chic-fil-a is going to bring the economy roaring back to life.
You forgot trans vaginal ultrasounds! That's got to be a huge job creator too...
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