NATO Afghan Pullback Shatters Obama's Implausible Claims Of Progress' (house of representatives, Cheney, vote)

[jt800]

Both Britain and Obama have for months, if not years made it clear they are desperate to get out of Afghanistan.

They have clung to the increasingly implausible claim that training and mentoring Afghan security forces was going well, indeed better than expected.

That claim has been shattered by Nato's decision, taken at the behest of the US, to suspend joint Nato-Afghan ground operations.

The decision strikes at the heart of Nato and US strategy.

Another Obama foreign policy disaster!

[gomexico]

Some of us appreciate the sacrifices our men and women in uniform have made, and continue to make. Including the onces who've made the ultimate sacrifice of giving their lives. Others in the crowd aren't so appreciative.

The debacle in Afghanistan is of the Republican Party's making. "W' Bush, eager to defend "H.W." in Iraq and to let Dicky Cheney promote the interests of the Military Industrial Complex in Iraq ... ignored the Afghanistan situation for years. They're responsible for the murder of our husbands, wives, children, friends.

A Commander-in-Chief receives advice and consultation from the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the battlefield commanders. President Obama has demonstrated he's a far better Commander than "W" Bush ever could be, and, actually, better than Ronald Reagan ever was or could have been.

Rather than constantly attack our soldiers and our nation's values, I think the extremists who are itching for war should go sit in the corner and ask the Almighty for forgiveness.

[Ponderosa]

Afghanistan is just another mess that Bush left that there is no tidy and easy way to clean up. Having said that, Obama should have kept his promise to get us out of there. Every life lost in that country is a life wasted and that is tragic.

[jt800]

Originally Posted by gomexico

President Obama has demonstrated he's a far better Commander than "W" Bush ever could be

OH yes of course......he only followed BUSH'S example from Iraq and instituted a "surge".

A "surge" in Iraq which Obama voted AGAINST and made a withdrawal from Iraq possible.

But of course, this isn't ABOUT any of that. It's ABOUT Obama repeatedly telling the American people that thigs are going well in Afghanistan while this news proves that's a lie.

Rather than constantly attack our soldiers and our nation's values, I think the extremists who are itching for war should go sit in the corner and ask the Almighty for forgiveness.

No one who's ever been in combat ever wants to see anyone go through that.

Have you ever been in combat?

[jt800]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Afghanistan is just another mess that Bush left that there is no tidy and easy way to clean up.

Would you care to see the actual VOTE in Congress and see how many DEMOCRATS voted in favor of the Afghan War?:


House of Representatives

On September 14, 2001 bill House Joint Resolution 64 passed in the House. The totals in the House of Representatives were: 420 Ayes, 1 Nay and 10 Not Voting. The Nay was Barbara Lee, D-CA. [2] Lee is notable as the only member of either house of Congress to vote against this bill.[3]
Senate

On September 14, 2001 Senate Joint Resolution 23 passed in the Senate by roll call vote. The totals in the Senate were: 98 Ayes, 0 Nays, 2 Present/Not Voting (Senators Larry Craig - R and Jesse Helms - R).