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Old 09-21-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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Namely one distraction and diversion after another. An endless series of dumbed-down mini-controversies tailor-made for MSM trolls.

• A demand by a 30-year-old law student for legislation that would require others to pay for her birth control somehow morphs into a 'war on women.'

•The brouhaha over Romneys tax returns.

•The sudden immaculate conversion on gay marriage from Pres. Obama.

•The controversy over Paul Ryan's marathon time.

•Other mini-controversies too numerous to list, such as Romney's comments about the Olympics, Ann Romney's horse, Romney's comments about the terrorist attack in Libya, etc.

•The latest, of course, namely Romney's questioning of where we are going with 47% of tax filers paying zero taxes. Even the WaPo thinks this is a tempest in a tea-pot:
Romney’s ’47 percent’ comment and the importance of the echo chamber


It's a smart campaign, no doubt, when you've got 8.3 percent uemployment, fewer jobs than in 2009, black unemployment thru the roof, median household income down by 5%, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices more than doubled, and one in six Americans or thereabouts on food stamps. And the area surrounding Washington DC now the richest region (by household income) in the nation, surpassing Silicon Valley.

Credit where credit is due...well done, Team Obama; gotta hand it to you.
Some of these stories you mention have been created and/or perpetrated by the right. Take the whole birth control thing. That was born out of a larger and more important story about how women were completely and deliberately excluded from speaking or being represented in any way at a Congressional hearing concerning birth control rights. It's the right--namely Rush Limbaugh--who made Sandra Fluke the story, in an attempt to divert attention from that picture of all the old white clergymen creating contraceptive policy for all the women in America. That was not the doing of the left or the MSM. Sorry, but you guys own that one.

Some of these stories--tax returns, lying about race times, voicing the belief that nearly half the country are "victims and takers"--focus on character. The country has had four years of Obama/Biden, so whether you like them or loathe them, their characters are already known. Romney in particular remains an enigma, mostly by his own secrecy over the specifics of what he would do if elected, his refusal to share with the country information about himself that every other candidate willingly shares, and by his seeming inability to pick a side of an issue--ANY issue--and stick with it. He is defeating himself on a daily basis, and Obama doesn't even need to open his mouth.

Then you have his statements made regarding the Olympics, the embassy attacks and other foreign policy gaffes. Are you really saying those are irrelevant and that Romney shouldn't be held responsible for them?

The bottom line is that Romney is a terrible candidate. No matter how much you want to blame the media or Obama, it is Romney who is defeating Romney. No one else.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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No offense bud, I am an Obama supporter but you basically explained why Mitt is a twit not why Obama has run a good campaign, although he has.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Namely one distraction and diversion after another. An endless series of dumbed-down mini-controversies tailor-made for MSM trolls.

• A demand by a 30-year-old law student for legislation that would require others to pay for her birth control somehow morphs into a 'war on women.'

•The brouhaha over Romneys tax returns.

•The sudden immaculate conversion on gay marriage from Pres. Obama.

•The controversy over Paul Ryan's marathon time.

•Other mini-controversies too numerous to list, such as Romney's comments about the Olympics, Ann Romney's horse, Romney's comments about the terrorist attack in Libya, etc.

•The latest, of course, namely Romney's questioning of where we are going with 47% of tax filers paying zero taxes. Even the WaPo thinks this is a tempest in a tea-pot:
Romney’s ’47 percent’ comment and the importance of the echo chamber


It's a smart campaign, no doubt, when you've got 8.3 percent uemployment, fewer jobs than in 2009, black unemployment thru the roof, median household income down by 5%, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices more than doubled, and one in six Americans or thereabouts on food stamps. And the area surrounding Washington DC now the richest region (by household income) in the nation, surpassing Silicon Valley.

Credit where credit is due...well done, Team Obama; gotta hand it to you.


It's not that hard when you controll basically every media outlet in the US.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:36 AM
 
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It's not that hard when you controll basically every media outlet in the US.
We have a terrible candidate--it must be the media's fault!! What a load of crap.

Who Owns The Media? Industry Giants, Saudi Princes and Australian Robber Barons.

Who really controls the media? Is the so called "liberal media" that the right complains about controlled by Hollywood and liberal special interests? Is Fox News controlled by the Republican Party? If you believe any of these generalizations you are dead wrong and the truth will shock you.

Major multinational corporations, Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds and Saudi Princes, all hell bent on protecting their own interests, choose what you will see on the nightly news and trick you into believing it is unbiased reporting. As we see below all the major news outlets, regardless of what they make you believe, contributed heavily to George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004 so any argument that they are controlled by liberals evaporates. In this case they all supported the candidate that promised to allow consolidation of multiple media companies.


Who Owns The News? Media Ownership By Corporations.

Who are you going to blame now? How about your crappy candidate?

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Old 09-21-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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It's not that hard when you controll basically every media outlet in the US.
Ah, a former supporter of ol' Newt "blame it on the media" Gingrich...!!
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by wutitiz View Post
Namely one distraction and diversion after another. An endless series of dumbed-down mini-controversies tailor-made for MSM trolls.

• A demand by a 30-year-old law student for legislation that would require others to pay for her birth control somehow morphs into a 'war on women.'




•The brouhaha over Romneys tax returns.

•The sudden immaculate conversion on gay marriage from Pres. Obama.

•The controversy over Paul Ryan's marathon time.

•Other mini-controversies too numerous to list, such as Romney's comments about the Olympics, Ann Romney's horse, Romney's comments about the terrorist attack in Libya, etc.

•The latest, of course, namely Romney's questioning of where we are going with 47% of tax filers paying zero taxes. Even the WaPo thinks this is a tempest in a tea-pot:
Romney’s ’47 percent’ comment and the importance of the echo chamber


It's a smart campaign, no doubt, when you've got 8.3 percent uemployment, fewer jobs than in 2009, black unemployment thru the roof, median household income down by 5%, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices more than doubled, and one in six Americans or thereabouts on food stamps. And the area surrounding Washington DC now the richest region (by household income) in the nation, surpassing Silicon Valley.

Credit where credit is due...well done, Team Obama; gotta hand it to you.
I don't agree. Not at all.

These things would be nothing is the liberal media didn't puff it up as some big deal.. Romney's 47 percent is what he said he won't be able to reach.. he is talking about VOTES only. Who will support Romney as president.

It had nothing to do with who he cares about in the country as far as Americans.. If Obama had said this same thing this is how the media would explain it and I would agree.

It was a summation of who would vote for Romney and who he could reach with his message . Romney already made it plain.. if you want something for free vote for the other guy.

They are not running a smart campaign.. it is the three stooges , and Obama playing all the parts.. it is the liberal media cleaning up his mess. The liberal media is brainwashing and also neutralizing everything Obama does wrong. Just watch CNN MSNBC, CBC, NBC AND ABC.. they neutralize with words if there is a problem with Obama, they put a positive spin on all of it at the end of the piece... whatever the material...people eat it up..

If Obama did ANYTHING wrong, the media could spin it as ok. No big deal, no problem, need more answers, understandable or whatever. Watch the words and the patterns, these so called news shows put in their opinion and it always leaves a favorable explanation at the end for Obama. I am not fooled.

Propaganda on all the stations .. it is strange why they support this loser president to the detriment of this country.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Obama is simply doing better because he's running a better campaign. The national debt and structural problems of the economy and government are not solely Obama's fault. It's a culmination of decades of policy choices. Romney is just running on Obama is bad, so pick me. Voters don't seem to be buying it.
That was David Simon's point on Bill Maher's show a couple weeks ago. Candidates always run on economic issues over a 4 or 8-year increment, but these problems have been building up for decades. It started with the decline of manufacturing in the 1970s, continued with the deregulation of Wall Street and arms race in the 1980s, and took off from there.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:51 AM
 
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I don't agree. Not at all.

These things would be nothing is the liberal media didn't puff it up as some big deal.. Romney's 47 percent is what he said he won't be able to reach.. he is talking about VOTES only. Who will support Romney as president.

They are not running a smart campaign.. it is the three stooges , and Obama playing all the parts.. it is the liberal media cleaning up his mess. The liberal media is brainwashing and also neutralizing everything Obama does wrong. Just watch CNN MSNBC, CBC, NBC AND ABC.. they neutralize with words if there is a problem with Obama, they put a positive spin on all of it at the end of the piece... whatever the material...people eat it up..

If Obama did ANYTHING wrong, the media could spin it as ok. No big deal, no problem, need more answers, understandable or whatever. Watch the words and the patterns, these so called news shows put in their opinion and it always leaves a favorable explanation at the end for Obama. I am not fooled.

Propaganda on all the stations .. it is strange why they support this loser president to the detriment of this country.
We understand. When you have a candidate as crappy as Romney you need to blame someone other than the crappy candidate. Big crocodile tears for you--
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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These things would be nothing is the liberal media didn't puff it up as some big deal.. Romney's 47 percent is what he said he won't be able to reach.. he is talking about VOTES only. Who will support Romney as president.
No, he wasn't talking about votes only; he specifically the 47% who paid no income taxes feel entitled to handouts of food, health care and shelter. He also dismissed them all as Obama voters, even though many are elderly SS recipients and military combatants who might have voted for him otherwise.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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No, he wasn't talking about votes only; he specifically the 47% who paid no income taxes feel entitled to handouts of food, health care and shelter. He also dismissed them all as Obama voters, even though many are elderly SS recipients and military combatants who might have voted for him otherwise.
Yep. Only a candidate as inept as Romney could take a constituency that was essentially in the bag for him and alienate them to the point where they are booing his VP candidate. Tell us again about how it's all the media's fault that his campaign is floundering.

Paul Ryan Booed at AARP Convention | Video - ABC News

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