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My point was that I highly doubt that the liberal and moderate end of the non-hispanic population (2/3) thinks that most Hispanics are here illegally. That one third most likely represents your end of the political spectrum. The rhetoric coming out of the tea party (calling for giant electric immigrant zappers on the border, etc) back that up even if the poll didn't go into as much detail.
That 1/3 is a gross exagerration. There's 50M Hispanics living in the US and 12M are here illegally, but it is not specified if the 12M is in addition to the 50M or is part of the 50M. Either way, it's definitely not 1/3.
Also, like it or not, their anchor babies are American born and raised. It's too late to change anything. Live with it and adjust and stop with the Real American™ hysteria. Or, if you really want to kick the illegals out, and their kids, implode the economy so bad they'll be forced to move to Mexico. Now there's a novel idea
My point was that I highly doubt that the liberal and moderate end of the non-hispanic population (2/3) thinks that most Hispanics are here illegally. That one third most likely represents your end of the political spectrum. The rhetoric coming out of the tea party (calling for giant electric immigrant zappers on the border, etc) back that up even if the poll didn't go into as much detail.
So you are worried about a minority of people? This is what the left does all the time. They take the extreme element on the right and hold them up as examples of the entire right. It is deceitful and despicable. For Christ's sake these are your fellow Americans whether they disagree with your political views or not.
Please provide links to the so-called rhetoric of the teaparty. What is wrong with zapping people with a non lethal electric shock for trying to cross our border illegally? It's not as if those types of fences aren't already in use within our borders for security. Warning signs are usually posted. If you are dumb enough to ignore them and try to break in anyway you deserve what you get. You do realize that it isn't just so-called innocent migrants that are crashing our borders, don't you? There are criminals and would be terrorists getting through also. Do you not care about the safety and security of our country's citizens?
How you "feel" is irrelevant. There is nothing racist about wanting to keep the integrity of our elections intact. Do you not think that their are poor white Americans who wouldn't have the same so-called issues with providing a viable ID to vote? Please.....
There is no reason in this world why a citizen shouldn't have a proper ID. By the way, all the states that have implemented Voter ID laws have offered to provide free ID for those who are claiming they can't afford one. If they can make it to voting booths surely they can make it to the DMV to get one. Next lame excuse.....
if how we feel is irrelevant, than why do posters on this forum constantly create threads about blacks voting democrat?
That 1/3 is a gross exagerration. There's 50M Hispanics living in the US and 12M are here illegally, but it is not specified if the 12M is in addition to the 50M or is part of the 50M. Either way, it's definitely not 1/3.
Also, like it or not, their anchor babies are American born and raised. It's too late to change anything. Live with it and adjust and stop with the Real Americanâ„¢ hysteria. Or, if you really want to kick the illegals out, and their kids, implode the economy so bad they'll be forced to move to Mexico. Now there's a novel idea
So what? Most Americans do not claim that most Hispanics are here illegally.
There is no plan to strip the citizenship of anchor babies. However, we do need to re-interpret the 14th amendment as it was meant to be. At least one parent needs to be a citizen in order for the newborn to gain instant citizenship. So no, it is not too late to change that.
Our economy would improve without illegals and their kids stealing jobs and benefits from Americans. Who do you think you are kidding?
if how we feel is irrelevant, than why do posters on this forum constantly create threads about blacks voting democrat?
You feeling that Voter ID laws are inheritantly racist is what is irrelevant. I noticed you wouldn't address the truths of my post. What does the fact the most blacks vote Democrat have to do with any of this? Most blacks don't have an viable ID? Please....
That 1/3 is a gross exagerration. There's 50M Hispanics living in the US and 12M are here illegally, but it is not specified if the 12M is in addition to the 50M or is part of the 50M. Either way, it's definitely not 1/3.
Also, like it or not, their anchor babies are American born and raised. It's too late to change anything. Live with it and adjust and stop with the Real American™ hysteria. Or, if you really want to kick the illegals out, and their kids, implode the economy so bad they'll be forced to move to Mexico. Now there's a novel idea
Did you actually read my post or the link? The one third is referring to NON HISPANICS who falsely believe that most hispanics are here illegally--it's not referring to hispanics in this country, and the number (which is quite low) who come here undocumented. I'm guilty of skimming posts and misunderstanding every once in awhile too, but this one went soaring right over your head.
So what? Most Americans do not claim that most Hispanics are here illegally.
There is no plan to strip the citizenship of anchor babies. However, we do need to re-interpret the 14th amendment as it was meant to be. At least one parent needs to be a citizen in order for the newborn to gain instant citizenship. So no, it is not too late to change that.
Our economy would improve without illegals and their kids stealing jobs and benefits from Americans. Who do you think you are kidding?
You're right--most don't. It's just that pesky 1/3 of the non hispanics in this country that happens to be mouth foaming radical right nut jobs. That was my point in my original post--that most people in the tea party (or at least the "teavangelicals") believe that most african americans are on welfare, and that most hispanics are here illegally. I more than documented my statement with recent polling. Your argument is a FAIL and now you're just trying to change the subject.
So you are worried about a minority of people? This is what the left does all the time. They take the extreme element on the right and hold them up as examples of the entire right. It is deceitful and despicable. For Christ's sake these are your fellow Americans whether they disagree with your political views or not.
Please provide links to the so-called rhetoric of the teaparty. What is wrong with zapping people with a non lethal electric shock for trying to cross our border illegally? It's not as if those types of fences aren't already in use within our borders for security. Warning signs are usually posted. If you are dumb enough to ignore them and try to break in anyway you deserve what you get. You do realize that it isn't just so-called innocent migrants that are crashing our borders, don't you? There are criminals and would be terrorists getting through also. Do you not care about the safety and security of our country's citizens?
One third of the nonhispanic population of this country correlates pretty well to the far right end of the republican base--the "teavangelical" nutjob mouth foaming wing. As for showing you anything--your follow up was all the proof that anyone here needs. By the way, the fence Cain proposed wasn't just to shock people--he made it very clear that it would be deadly. He also wanted to add a second layer of armed military with shoot to kill orders behind the fence. You can have your own opinions, but you don't get to make up the facts as you go. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-border-fence/
You feeling that Voter ID laws are inheritantly racist is what is irrelevant. I noticed you wouldn't address the truths of my post. What does the fact the most blacks vote Democrat have to do with any of this? Most blacks don't have an viable ID? Please....
I'm making the point that republicans have an issue with minorities, and one of the reasons is that laws they create can viewed as racist, like the voter id laws. When they hear that blacks think a law is racist, they just say we are playing the race card and ignore how we feel. This is an issue that the republicans are dealing with right now. The voter id law was just an example.
P.S. what you call truth, is just really your opinion.
Interestingly, the wealthiest Mexicans tend to be the most socially liberal as well. That's why, for example, the Distrito Federal legalized gay marriage back in 2009.
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I'm guilty of skimming posts and misunderstanding every once in awhile too, but this one went soaring right over your head.
By the way, the fence Cain proposed wasn't just to shock people--he made it very clear that it would be deadly. He also wanted to add a second layer of armed military with shoot to kill orders behind the fence. You can have your own opinions, but you don't get to make up the facts as you go.
