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Anyone in a comfortable position in their lives can pick and choose what they want to see, hear or read and talk about
The housing market is higher than it has been in four years
People's 401k Plans are up
Wall Street doing very well
Cut the Deficit by $300 Billion
Unemployment down
Consumer confidence up
Home prices and new constructions are up for those who still have homes compared to those who lost their jobs and homes!
You see, the comments here are coming from those of "who have" and not those from the "have nots"!
The overall U.S. economy still hasn't improved under Obama! That's why it's time for a change!
For the 23 million unfortunate people, unemployment still looks bad for them, gas and food prices are up, more people are on food stamps today, over a trillion dollars has been spent on Welfare for 2011!
Anywhere from 636,017 in 2011 were homeless. National Alliance to End Homelessness: The State of Homelessness in America 2012 , what of them while those who post on forums like CD are home and comfortable and are on top of their political bashing games!
...and defunding education while blocking legislation that could create jobs is Obama's fault? You don't see how these things can improve the economy of the USA economy in its entirety in the long term?
I assume that you are not voting for either candidate.
Obama didn't do anything to improve the U.S. economy during his term in office!
So, just put Romney & Ryan in office and see what they can accomplish in 4 years!
So, you're not reading any of the really good posts on this board which explain clearly what Obama has accomplished, one of which was specifically addressed to you, but, instead, you will continue to repeat the same mantra without data to support it?
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Originally Posted by Art2ro IMHO, Obama had his chance, but showed the American people that his policies did not work to improve the American economy
The actual economic data disproves that. When Obama took office, the economy was in freefall, BEFORE any of his policies had been implemented. There have been, what, 45 months so far in this Obama administration. There have been 31 consecutive months of economic/job growth. That means that the first 14 months of the Obama administration was where the worst of the economic calamity was happening, coming out of the Bush administration. Therefore, it becomes clear that we were in the 2nd WORST RECESSION EVER in the US going into the Obama presidency, and, once Obama really began implementing his policies, the economy bottomed out a little over a year after he took office and has been improving steadily and consistently ever since.
Extra data: Even conservative economists who have gone back and looked at the historical data conclude that the WORST recessions that the US experience NECESSARILY have slow growth out of them, that it's only the minor ones, the typical business cycle ones, which show the booming growth rates coming out. Therefore, really with us having gone through not just a recession but the 2nd worst in our history, but now with consistent economic growth such that companies are making money hand over fist, THAT is data-driven evidence that Obama's policies HAVE worked to improve the American economy. They have also worked to make sure that more kids have access to the highest paying jobs in the American economy via Pell Grant expansion. College graduates have a much lower unemployment rate than the general population, and science and engineering college graduates have a lower unemployment rate (about 2%) than even the college graduate population collectively.
So not only does the data show that Obama's policies took the 2nd worst recession ever and turned it into consistent sustained economic and job growth, it also shows that it has allowed more kids ACCESS to the better paying jobs and lower unemployment categories that the American economy has to offer.
Interesting how actual data can dispell perception for those really looking for the truth of the matter. Obama has shown the American public that his policies HAVE worked to improve the American economy.
Very thoughtful of you. Clearly, it is not worth anyone's time to respond to you in any way. Your screen name is another great candidate for the ignore list.
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I hear that Tag Romney wanted to rush the stage and deck Obama for his dismantling of the Mythster.
Maybe he'll take a lesson from his father and go out and find some gay kid to take his frustration out on. Of course, he'll have to gather up four or five of his buddies to help him because we all know the Romney men aren't man enough to go one on one.
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Hmmm, seems his aggression instinct could be useful in Afghanistan.
Pfffftttt.......A Romney actually serving his country? Never happen.
I cannot trust a man who will so easily reverse his positions/stance just so he can get this segment of voters or that segment of voters. Especially within the SAME election season.
I have repped you and I am in agreement with all of your posts on this thread, but I suggest that you save yourself the time and effort of pointing out Myth Romney's lack of integrity and self-serving lust for the ofice of the POTUS. I've come to realize, as I am sure many of us have, that most of these so called Romney supporters know what a flim flam man he is, but will support anyone as long as it is a vote against Obama. There's also the group that like the idea of a Plutocracy for some strange deep seated psychological need of worshipping the wealthy.
Well, I can debunk that claim too...The jobs will be there, but not because of anything Romney does...
So, in other words, Willard is trying to take credit for something that is predicted to happen anyway.
What a fraud.
Of course, when Obama is firmly entrenched in his second term, and those 12 million predicted jobs have occurred, will Willard (or any other republi-CON) give the President credit?
So, in other words, Willard is trying to take credit for something that is predicted to happen anyway.
What a fraud.
Of course, when Obama is firmly entrenched in his second term, and those 12 million predicted jobs have occurred, will Willard (or any other republi-CON) give the President credit?
Yep! I have not heard Obama call him out on this unless I just missed it, but then again, his lies come out so rapidly that his mouth should be registered as an automatic weapon.
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The main problem with Romney's vague and unspecified jobs plan has been the fact that the economy is on track to create 12 million jobs between 2012 and 2016 anyway. It makes this a pretty weak promise as campaign boasts go.
But to his credit, Glenn Kessler dug a little deeper, and discovered the Romney campaign's central argument is based on a shameless lie.
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Romeny was right, Obama is lieing, as usual.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why does it always seem like the GOP side these days ain't exactly among the sharpest tacks in the box?! Geez, Bill Buckley must be rolling over in his grave!
Maybe he'll take a lesson from his father and go out and find some gay kid to take his frustration out on. Of course, he'll have to gather up four or five of his buddies to help him because we all know the Romney men aren't man enough to go one on one.Pfffftttt.......A Romney actually serving his country? Never happen.
"Pfffftttt.......A Romney actually serving his country? Never happen."
Kinda like Biden with his 5 deferments!
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I have repped you and I am in agreement with all of your posts on this thread, but I suggest that you save yourself the time and effort of pointing out Myth Romney's lack of integrity and self-serving lust for the ofice of the POTUS. I've come to realize, as I am sure many of us have, that most of these so called Romney supporters know what a flim flam man he is, but will support anyone as long as it is a vote against Obama. There's also the group that like the idea of a Plutocracy for some strange deep seated psychological need of worshipping the wealthy.
