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Old 10-17-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Yep, I quoted the wrong poll. When I searched it, that is the one that came up and I was thinking it was the one from last night. But the fact remains that Obama didn't win last night's debate. If anything, it was a wash. He did better than he did in the first debate, and Romney did not quite as well as the first debate. But Obama also had help from the liberal moderator and the moderator even LIED for Obama (then later admitted she was "wrong") when Romney was trying to make a point. Romney made great points about Obama's failures the last four years. It's time for a change, and not Obama's "change" that he brought the last four years. We need a change for the better.
Having to say must taste like vinegar huh?!?!?! Take a few more steps and admit that Romney lost and your journey to truth and realism will be complete!
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Waltham, MA
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if you have no interest in facts then thats your problem.

And yet Romney closed deficit loop holes and had 5% unemployment rates.. Wow, if you think standards like that are disasters, then you either hate america and want it to die, or you think Obamas policies are a train wreck.. Which is it.
You are asking for it.. So here it is... FACTS... Not just Romney's MA track record but a complete resume of Romney upto 2008 with all the facts checked out from Senetor McCain... Download it, print it... do whatever u want to.. but READ it.... and hey you have questions about anything on it.. dont shoot me.. please ask it to Senator McCain...

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Do you realize how dumb that sounds? "He was an absentee governor!" I guess that means he'll be an absentee president, too. Just like he was an absentee CEO at Bain. And an absentee speaker when he derided the "47 percent."
The only one who sounds dumb is you. You also sound worried.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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The only one who sounds dumb is you. You also sound worried.

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Old 10-17-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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Having to say must taste like vinegar huh?!?!?! Take a few more steps and admit that Romney lost and your journey to truth and realism will be complete!
Romney didn't lose. Obama just didn't suck as much as he did the first debate.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Romney didn't lose. Obama just didn't suck as much as he did the first debate.
Yep.

I felt Romney owned Obama on the important issues like the economy, creating jobs, and having a vision for the future.

Just because Obama did not get utterly destroyed again does not mean he won the debate. He just did better than last time, which isn't saying much.

Certainly last night's debate wasn't the game-changing event that the first debate was.
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Old 10-17-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Word is getting out bigtime that Candy was in the tank for clown Obozo. People don't like that. Candy did the worse moderating in the history of presidentail debates. Hell, Candy interrupted Romney 28 times and Obozo only 8 times. It was obvious to anyone (even a small child) that Obozo was receiving help from the moderator. So...Romney outshined Obozo once again on substance and facts, and Obozo flunked on everything even after receiving blantantly obvious preferential help. Romney wiped the debate floor with the clown's butt!!!
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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I see them making up conspiracy theories and excuses, the lamestream liberal media, the moderator is an Obamabot, blah blah blah blah.

The Dems took their lumps, why can't you guys do the same

Time to man up
Never admit you're wrong, never surrender. It's the same attitude writ large that got us into the Iraq mess. It's stupid and dishonest, and a clear example of why THEY are wrong for this country.

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Just because Obama did not get utterly destroyed again does not mean he won the debate. He just did better than last time, which isn't saying much.
And there you have it. THIS is what's wrong with political discourse in this country, all distilled in one single post. They live in a bubble and don't see reality through the same clear filter that we do.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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I see them making up conspiracy theories and excuses, the lamestream liberal media, the moderator is an Obamabot, blah blah blah blah.

The Dems took their lumps, why can't you guys do the same

Time to man up


An awful, tremendous amount of denial took place on these very pages after the first debate.
The Dems did not "take their lumps" and made every excuse in the book.

This continued until they realized no one was buying any of it at all and it was sounding ridiculus and pathetic.
It got to the point that it was adding to the damage already done by Obama's sad performance.

I will agree Obama did not look so sad sack this time but spent most of the night regurgitating promise and rhetoric from 4 years ago.
That does not equate with "winning".
We know what that wrought and we don't care for it.

He made clear he wants more Gun control.
The '94 "Crime Bill" was allowed to expire greatly due to it unpopularity.

He purposly mislead on Benghazi and did so again in the debate.
There are audios from Shows he appeared on after the initial statement in the Rose Garden that are damning him now.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Never admit you're wrong, never surrender. It's the same attitude writ large that got us into the Iraq mess. It's stupid and dishonest, and a clear example of why THEY are wrong for this country.



And there you have it. THIS is what's wrong with political discourse in this country, all distilled in one single post. They live in a bubble and don't see reality through the same clear filter that we do.



Same bubble as all of the insisters that he won the first debate?
The same bubble of excuse makers?
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