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Old 10-17-2012, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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three reasons.

1. Because Mitt was essentially the same guy as in the first debate. He did the job he needed to do to look presidential and he did nothing to loose.
Romney was nastier and more defensive. His performance was better the first debate. Obama clearly controlled the debate.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Given that red states benefit so disproportionately from government spending, while the Republican's rich supporters benefit so generously from preferential treatment under our tax code, I'm sure you meant to type:

But anyone can make a typo, so I'm not going to mock you.
I cant believe people are dumb enough to continue to post that nonsense. They benefit because they provide services to the federal government. Its not for free..
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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An awful, tremendous amount of denial took place on these very pages after the first debate.
The Dems did not "take their lumps" and made every excuse in the book.

This continued until they realized no one was buying any of it at all and it was sounding ridiculus and pathetic.
It got to the point that it was adding to the damage already done by Obama's sad performance.

I will agree Obama did not look so sad sack this time but spent most of the night regurgitating promise and rhetoric from 4 years ago.
That does not equate with "winning".
We know what that wrought and we don't care for it.

He made clear he wants more Gun control.
The '94 "Crime Bill" was allowed to expire greatly due to it unpopularity.

He purposly mislead on Benghazi and did so again in the debate.
There are audios from Shows he appeared on after the initial statement in the Rose Garden that are damning him now.
The police could have arrived and arrested Romney for child molestation during the debate and many Republicans would still believe he won. Watching the spin machine after the election. It is not a surprise. I really don't expect intellectual honesty from the right anymore. That would require both intellect and honesty...a rare combination coming from the right these days.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I see them making up conspiracy theories and excuses, the lamestream liberal media, the moderator is an Obamabot, blah blah blah blah.

The Dems took their lumps, why can't you guys do the same

Time to man up
Because he didn't.

Mitt Romney was the clear winner of both debates.

Also aren't you being sexist by saying "man up"?

(liberals never expect to have their own tricks used against them).

Why do you hate women?
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:19 AM
 
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Romney was nastier and more defensive. His performance was better the first debate. Obama clearly controlled the debate.
Obama's body language was more effective than stiff Romney's IMO, too.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:27 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Because he didn't win.

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I see them making up conspiracy theories and excuses, the lamestream liberal media, the moderator is an Obamabot, blah blah blah blah.

The Dems took their lumps, why can't you guys do the same

Time to man up
Romney won. Clearly.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Default Because he didn't win.

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I see them making up conspiracy theories and excuses, the lamestream liberal media, the moderator is an Obamabot, blah blah blah blah.

The Dems took their lumps, why can't you guys do the same

Time to man up
Romney won. Clearly.

Obama stammered, stumbled and bumbled and rambled all over the place, much as he had done in the first debate. We saw the same man, though perhaps more animated. His "agressiveness" was ineffective, because he lies. Romney called him out on them.

When Obama tried to interrupt Romney, Rommey made him sit down. He was done.

And when Candy Crowley became a shill for Obama, and he took advantage of it, when everyone knew he was lying; game over.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:37 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Take from person A - > Government takes huge handling fee -> Person B gets the bones.

Look at Social Security, people get a whopping 1.7% raise that is around $12 - $45 A MONTH. Whahoo! This is what you are fighting tooth and nail for... a 1.7% raise

Isn't that the first in 2 years?
No.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Obama saved the economy and it did not meltdown.
Oh, really? We are in "meltdown." How and when did he "save it?"

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How is that worse? Remember Romney said no bailout for the car companies. Where would we be if GM and others had failed?
GM should have been allowed to go through normal bankruptcy. Obama forced his will, and the bond holders got screwed. That was actually illegal. The bond holders should have been paid first, according to law.
GM has not been "saved." They still owe billions to the taxpayers.
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You are so dissatisfied with Obama how about you tell us how the repub's would have saved us. Remember also that McCain would have had us in Iran real quick. Explain how that would affect our economy.
Please get your head out of the sand. We are in worse shape now than when Obama took office, and evreyone knows it (but you ardent Obamatrons).
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