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Old 10-18-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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1. You find that common sense makes no sense at all.

2. You know that there is no such thing as unintended consequences from your actions or proposed solutions.

3. You are a master at projecting or "transferring" what could be your problem or attitude (but not really) on to others.

4. You find that people who don't agree with you are idiots or racists or mean-spirited...or mean-spirited racist idiots.

5. You do not include the word "grateful" in your vocabulary.

6. You consider your thinking based on emotion, and you express it through emotion -- even to the point of shameful antics. And you think that's perfectly okay.

7. You echo the accusation that those with opinions opposite yours obviously originated said opinion from some "echo chamber."

8. You bluster about your personal trials and tribulations as a tactic to get others to think you truly emphasize with their plights.

9. You blame others if it appears (and obviously only appears) that you may have made a mistake.

10. You are certain that you never ever operate from an ideological position.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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I'm afraid you need an * after #5 as unfortunately, there are probably a good number of Grateful Dead Obamabots. ;-)
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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You are a Romney idealist if...................
(1) You want America to go back to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
(2) If you want Women to be second class citizens in the USA.
(3) If you want to decrease the police force, teachers and important Gov. employees.
(4) If you want to put the complete control of our healthcare in the hands of CEO's
(5) If you want to turn medicare into a voucher system that CANNOT keep up with inflation.
(6) If you want to keep Capital gains tax low so that Romney and his "fat cat" chums earn more and more from their taxable "nest eggs"
(7) If you want to go to war.... again.
(8) If you want to block money to beef up security in our embassies abroad.
(9) If you want to get rid of planned parenthood and deny women access to cancer screening etc.
(10) If you want to repeat his failure as Governor in creating jobs... he left Mass. 47th in job creation.
(11) If you feel that 47% of American's should be ignored as Romney feels that they aren't worth worrying about.
(12) If you want NO peace in the middle east because Romney has already said Palestine will never want peace.
(13) If you want assault rifles to be available to everyone.
(14) If you want abortion to be illegal, even if a woman is raped, or from incest or even if the woman's life is in danger.
(15) If you want deregulation of big corporations and banks.
(16) If you want someone who thinks "firing" people" is something he "likes"
(17) If you want someone who opens his mouth before engaging his brain.
(18) If you want someone who has earned millions by destroying jobs.
(19) If you want absolutely no rights for Gay's.
(20) If you want Hispanics to only be your gardener.
Anyone who votes for Romney and then is surprised when America once again goes into a recession cannot complain.... you know exactly what you are voting for with Romney....... Lies and failed policies.
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Old 10-18-2012, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
1. You find that common sense makes no sense at all.

2. You know that there is no such thing as unintended consequences from your actions or proposed solutions.

3. You are a master at projecting or "transferring" what could be your problem or attitude (but not really) on to others.

4. You find that people who don't agree with you are idiots or racists or mean-spirited...or mean-spirited racist idiots.

5. You do not include the word "grateful" in your vocabulary.

6. You consider your thinking based on emotion, and you express it through emotion -- even to the point of shameful antics. And you think that's perfectly okay.

7. You echo the accusation that those with opinions opposite yours obviously originated said opinion from some "echo chamber."

8. You bluster about your personal trials and tribulations as a tactic to get others to think you truly emphasize with their plights.

9. You blame others if it appears (and obviously only appears) that you may have made a mistake.

10. You are certain that you never ever operate from an ideological position.

Petch says, while staring into a mirror.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
1. You find that common sense makes no sense at all.

2. You know that there is no such thing as unintended consequences from your actions or proposed solutions.

3. You are a master at projecting or "transferring" what could be your problem or attitude (but not really) on to others.

4. You find that people who don't agree with you are idiots or racists or mean-spirited...or mean-spirited racist idiots.

5. You do not include the word "grateful" in your vocabulary.

6. You consider your thinking based on emotion, and you express it through emotion -- even to the point of shameful antics. And you think that's perfectly okay.

7. You echo the accusation that those with opinions opposite yours obviously originated said opinion from some "echo chamber."

8. You bluster about your personal trials and tribulations as a tactic to get others to think you truly emphasize with their plights.

9. You blame others if it appears (and obviously only appears) that you may have made a mistake.

10. You are certain that you never ever operate from an ideological position.
Liberal who doesn't fit into any of these categories here.

To be fair, I'm not voting for Obama, but still.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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You are a Romney idealist if...................
(1) You want America to go back to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
(2) If you want Women to be second class citizens in the USA.
(3) If you want to decrease the police force, teachers and important Gov. employees.
(4) If you want to put the complete control of our healthcare in the hands of CEO's
(5) If you want to turn medicare into a voucher system that CANNOT keep up with inflation.
(6) If you want to keep Capital gains tax low so that Romney and his "fat cat" chums earn more and more from their taxable "nest eggs"
(7) If you want to go to war.... again.
(8) If you want to block money to beef up security in our embassies abroad.
(9) If you want to get rid of planned parenthood and deny women access to cancer screening etc.
(10) If you want to repeat his failure as Governor in creating jobs... he left Mass. 47th in job creation.
(11) If you feel that 47% of American's should be ignored as Romney feels that they aren't worth worrying about.
(12) If you want NO peace in the middle east because Romney has already said Palestine will never want peace.
(13) If you want assault rifles to be available to everyone.
(14) If you want abortion to be illegal, even if a woman is raped, or from incest or even if the woman's life is in danger.
(15) If you want deregulation of big corporations and banks.
(16) If you want someone who thinks "firing" people" is something he "likes"
(17) If you want someone who opens his mouth before engaging his brain.
(18) If you want someone who has earned millions by destroying jobs.
(19) If you want absolutely no rights for Gay's.
(20) If you want Hispanics to only be your gardener.
Anyone who votes for Romney and then is surprised when America once again goes into a recession cannot complain.... you know exactly what you are voting for with Romney....... Lies and failed policies.
You just proved the OP's contentions!
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
29,218 posts, read 22,361,490 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
1. You find that common sense makes no sense at all.

2. You know that there is no such thing as unintended consequences from your actions or proposed solutions.

3. You are a master at projecting or "transferring" what could be your problem or attitude (but not really) on to others.

4. You find that people who don't agree with you are idiots or racists or mean-spirited...or mean-spirited racist idiots.

5. You do not include the word "grateful" in your vocabulary.

6. You consider your thinking based on emotion, and you express it through emotion -- even to the point of shameful antics. And you think that's perfectly okay.

7. You echo the accusation that those with opinions opposite yours obviously originated said opinion from some "echo chamber."

8. You bluster about your personal trials and tribulations as a tactic to get others to think you truly emphasize with their plights.

9. You blame others if it appears (and obviously only appears) that you may have made a mistake.

10. You are certain that you never ever operate from an ideological position.
To answer specifically:
1. Liberals have just as much common sense as conservatives, whether or not you agree.

2. Unintended consequences have bitten both liberals and conservatives equally and often in the butt since 2000.

3. This statement makes no sense, so there is no reply. Nonsense is no sense.

4. I doubt anyone, liberal or conservative, who are interested in honest and civil discourse automatically presume anyone on either side is either an idiot or racist until proven otherwise. But, of course, there are plenty on both sides who aren't interested in discussion. All they want to do is call names and hope to gain points from others of their ilk. Civility is a scare commodity on the internet, whether the discussion is serious or about a starlet's latest side-boob paparazzi picture.

5. Who does not have 'gratitude' in their vocabulary?

6. Some people act and speak from their emotions only, and others are more dispassionate and use belief and logic and facts more than emotions. Neither side has a corner on the emotional aspects of presidential politics, and this forum is evidence of that fact.

7. Again, there are those on both sides that only seek out confirmation of their own beliefs. An intellectually honest person who wants to engage in serious and thoughtful political debate has to read all opinions, whether they agreed with or not.

8. Some people can only see themselves as the center of their little universe. This is equally true of liberals and conservatives. Others on both sides have more balanced perspectives. Everyone has trials and tribulations, and everyone triumphs once in a while. That's the way the world works.

9. Some people have a hard time admitting they make mistakes. Other people do not. This equally applies to both political philosophies.

10. Everyone who discusses politics comes from an ideological position. I firmly believe people are born as conservatives or liberals. Only fools are always certain of everything. Facts are facts; the world is not flat, but Gallileo was put into prison for telling that truth to power.

Not a single one of the items on your list applies only to liberals. If you are just trying to kick up a fuss, this topic is a failure.

If you are conservative, you will never understand the liberal mind. Either way, who said you get to set the terms as to whom will qualify as an Obama idealist or not? You're not the only guy here who's wearing big boy pants.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck fit those criteria to a T, as do the creepy Teabaggers on this forum. Is "Obama Idealist" the new term for the right? I'm not sure why they're adopting the name of their worst enemy but it's no more stupid a name than Tea Party, which sounds pretty gay for a group that hates gay people

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Old 10-18-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
2,884 posts, read 5,641,002 times
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geeoro View Post
You are a Romney idealist if...................
(1) You want America to go back to the failed policies of the Bush administration.
(2) If you want Women to be second class citizens in the USA.
(3) If you want to decrease the police force, teachers and important Gov. employees.
(4) If you want to put the complete control of our healthcare in the hands of CEO's
(5) If you want to turn medicare into a voucher system that CANNOT keep up with inflation.
(6) If you want to keep Capital gains tax low so that Romney and his "fat cat" chums earn more and more from their taxable "nest eggs"
(7) If you want to go to war.... again.
(8) If you want to block money to beef up security in our embassies abroad.
(9) If you want to get rid of planned parenthood and deny women access to cancer screening etc.
(10) If you want to repeat his failure as Governor in creating jobs... he left Mass. 47th in job creation.
(11) If you feel that 47% of American's should be ignored as Romney feels that they aren't worth worrying about.
(12) If you want NO peace in the middle east because Romney has already said Palestine will never want peace.
(13) If you want assault rifles to be available to everyone.
(14) If you want abortion to be illegal, even if a woman is raped, or from incest or even if the woman's life is in danger.
(15) If you want deregulation of big corporations and banks.
(16) If you want someone who thinks "firing" people" is something he "likes"
(17) If you want someone who opens his mouth before engaging his brain.
(18) If you want someone who has earned millions by destroying jobs.
(19) If you want absolutely no rights for Gay's.
(20) If you want Hispanics to only be your gardener.
Anyone who votes for Romney and then is surprised when America once again goes into a recession cannot complain.... you know exactly what you are voting for with Romney....... Lies and failed policies.
Not an ounce of truth to anything you said. Face it, you picked a loser. You have something in common with obama, he only picks losers, too..
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