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The campaign announced that 30,000 people attended, but Secret Service sources said just 15,000 went through metal detectors. And local law enforcement counted the crowd at 18,000.
so you have anywhere between 15-18k. it is alarming that you were convinced of romneys numbers just because they came from his mouth.
Again my point is the same, but I stand corrected if that is what you want me to say. That said, I'm not sure what is a alarming about taking facts from various newspapers.
The campaign announced that 30,000 people attended, but Secret Service sources said just 15,000 went through metal detectors. And local law enforcement counted the crowd at 18,000.
Traveling through central and western PA on several occasions I saw mostly Romney Ryan signs, estimated around 18 R/R to 1 O/B. There are also a lot of Stop the war on coal Fire Obama signs too. Talking to people there it is very possible that it could go republican. They are not NY and they have in the past.
Many are dems there voting republican this time around. Yes, they do like their guns but people from PA are not as back-woods as people think. They are well educated people who are very family oriented. I love that Obama thought that PA was his. Never let the oponent see you coming.
Of course most expect that the inter-city poor will vote Obama.
A famous saying about PA politics is that Pennsylvania has Philly in the east and the 'Burgh in the west, and Alabama in the middle.
I have no doubt that central and south-central PA will go for Romney. I am sure places like Chambersburg, Altoona, and Williamsport in the north will go for Romney.
Certainly not Philly or Pittsburgh ... they are Obama country, and that is where most of the population is. Other areas of the state where Obama will win are the cities like Erie (PA's 4th largest city), Harrisburg proper, the Lehigh Valley - Allentown (PA's 3rd largest city), Bethlehem, and Easton (where I used to live); the Wyoming Valley - Scranton and Wilkes-Barre; the wealthy suburbs of Philly used to be Republican strongholds such as Bucks and Montgomery Counties but they are now solidly Democratic.
Its amazing to me that hard core democrats dont see the writing on the wall. Romney will take the crossover voters by a wide margin. The simple fact Obama is trying to win his second term in this election simply by trying to retain states he won in 2008, without gaining any states he lost in 2008 to McCain, something he has no chance of doing, should be very indicative of his demise. No one who voted McCain in 2008 will vote for Obama this go around, however, Romney is taking a huge number of voters disenchanted with Obama, including a large portion of Democratic voters, and a second term victory with less Electoral college votes hasnt happened since 1912. Romney wins on election day because everyone who wants Obama this time has already cast their vote. This enthusiasm against Obama is nothing I have ever seen before, even more so than Carter. The polls wont reflect that, cause the majority of people who are voting against Obama dont have the time to answer polls.
A famous saying about PA politics is that Pennsylvania has Philly in the east and the 'Burgh in the west, and Alabama in the middle.
I have no doubt that central and south-central PA will go for Romney. I am sure places like Chambersburg, Altoona, and Williamsport in the north will go for Romney.
Certainly not Philly or Pittsburgh ... they are Obama country, and that is where most of the population is. Other areas of the state where Obama will win are the cities like Erie (PA's 4th largest city), Harrisburg proper, the Lehigh Valley - Allentown (PA's 3rd largest city), Bethlehem, and Easton (where I used to live); the Wyoming Valley - Scranton and Wilkes-Barre; the wealthy suburbs of Philly used to be Republican strongholds such as Bucks and Montgomery Counties but they are now solidly Democratic.
Obama will carry the Keystone State.
No he won't....Romney will take PA because of the lowered Democratic turn out in Philly.
Pittsburgh will go Romney by virtue that the Democrats in the area are Reagan Democrats and many coal related industries are based in and around Pittsburgh. Not to mention the coal-fired electric plants being closed down by Obama's war on coal.
Its amazing to me that hard core democrats dont see the writing on the wall. Romney will take the crossover voters by a wide margin. The simple fact Obama is trying to win his second term in this election simply by trying to retain states he won in 2008, without gaining any states he lost in 2008 to McCain, something he has no chance of doing, should be very indicative of his demise. No one who voted McCain in 2008 will vote for Obama this go around, however, Romney is taking a huge number of voters disenchanted with Obama, including a large portion of Democratic voters, and a second term victory with less Electoral college votes hasnt happened since 1912. Romney wins on election day because everyone who wants Obama this time has already cast their vote. This enthusiasm against Obama is nothing I have ever seen before, even more so than Carter. The polls wont reflect that, cause the majority of people who are voting against Obama dont have the time to answer polls.
Thank god you only have 3 more days to post non-sense!
Its amazing to me that hard core democrats dont see the writing on the wall. Romney will take the crossover voters by a wide margin. The simple fact Obama is trying to win his second term in this election simply by trying to retain states he won in 2008, without gaining any states he lost in 2008 to McCain, something he has no chance of doing, should be very indicative of his demise. No one who voted McCain in 2008 will vote for Obama this go around, however, Romney is taking a huge number of voters disenchanted with Obama, including a large portion of Democratic voters, and a second term victory with less Electoral college votes hasnt happened since 1912. Romney wins on election day because everyone who wants Obama this time has already cast their vote. This enthusiasm against Obama is nothing I have ever seen before, even more so than Carter. The polls wont reflect that, cause the majority of people who are voting against Obama dont have the time to answer polls.
Yeah, it sure is amazing that Democrats aren't ignoring all the polls and just accepting your insistence that they're wrong. It sure is amazing that they just don't understand that, for the first time ever, all the polls are just wrong.
The campaign announced that 30,000 people attended, but Secret Service sources said just 15,000 went through metal detectors. And local law enforcement counted the crowd at 18,000.
so you have anywhere between 15-18k. it is alarming that you were convinced of romneys numbers just because they came from his mouth.
The fire chief is the one who said there were 30,000 people. Direct from the HuffPo:
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The rally had 30,000 people in attendance, according to a fire chief, while a police officer told reporters there were 18,000 attendees. Either way, the crowd size at the rally was staggering.
The campaign announced that 30,000 people attended, but Secret Service sources said just 15,000 went through metal detectors. And local law enforcement counted the crowd at 18,000.
so you have anywhere between 15-18k. it is alarming that you were convinced of romneys numbers just because they came from his mouth.
Looks like your info is flat out wrong.
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