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Old 11-03-2012, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I wonder who the Cons will pick in 2016 after Romney blows this election.

 
Old 11-03-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Polling has dried up I guess.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Nationwide, it may not be 2008, but in the swing states where all the ads and the GOTV efforts are, it may be.
I'm sorry even Jake Tapper scoffed at Marist Ohio's numbers. Mark Murray, NBC poll director essentially unskewed his poll as a result.

Let me break something down for you:

From Marist:

Early voting- 62% Obama, 36%Romney
Election Day- 42% Obama, 52% Romney

Ohio SoS # of early votes thus far. =1.6M
2008 total Ohio votes=5.7M

Obama=.62(1.6M)+.36(4.1M)= 2.632M
Romney= .36(1.6M)+ .52(4.1M)=2.692M
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Romney's within striking distance, and I think he's going to surprise people at the polls on that day. The voter turnout will be bigger for Romney on Tuesday than it will be for Obama. I'm saying this as an Obama supporter. I think Ohio will return to its regular voting pattern. Ohio never really fell in love with Obama, and the voters in that state have a history of ignoring economics in favor of other issues.
Another sensible liberal I hope more on your side are tempering their confidence of an Obama win. I fear when Romney wins that because the polls have been so bad that folks will claim fraud or some other irregularity which could divide the country further.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Originally Posted by chickenfriedbananas View Post
Romney's within striking distance, and I think he's going to surprise people at the polls on that day. The voter turnout will be bigger for Romney on Tuesday than it will be for Obama. I'm saying this as an Obama supporter. I think Ohio will return to its regular voting pattern. Ohio never really fell in love with Obama, and the voters in that state have a history of ignoring economics in favor of other issues.
I don't think that they appreciate being lied to to about the auto industry and by Jeep moving jobs to China. But then again faux and feinds are a powerful foe to rational and intelligent thinking. I have heard that there are pollsters that did not know about the lie or the rebuttle by Jeep as well
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Another sensible liberal I hope more on your side are tempering their confidence of an Obama win. I fear when Romney wins that because the polls have been so bad that folks will claim fraud or some other irregularity which could divide the country further.
It is a possibility for two reasons because it happened before and secondly mitt's son involvement in the polling machines in Ohio
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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Location: Closer than you think!
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
I'm sorry even Jake Tapper scoffed at Marist Ohio's numbers. Mark Murray, NBC poll director essentially unskewed his poll as a result.

Let me break something down for you:

From Marist:

Early voting- 62% Obama, 36%Romney
Election Day- 42% Obama, 52% Romney

Ohio SoS # of early votes thus far. =1.6M
2008 total Ohio votes=5.7M

Obama=.62(1.6M)+.36(4.1M)= 2.632M
Romney= .36(1.6M)+ .52(4.1M)=2.692M

Your numbers for Obama is wrong LOL...It would be .62(1.6M)+.42(4.1)=2.71M
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Your numbers for Obama is wrong LOL...It would be .62(1.6M)+.42(4.1)=2.71M
LOL. So it's over already. It looks like Ohio Republicans knew what they were doing when they tried to suppress early voting in Ohio. It is a good thing for America that the SCOTUS saw what they were up to as well.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: USA
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Default Is Democratic poll bias a reality?

The main argument that people have against election odds favoring Obama is that the models assume incorrectly that Democrats will turn out in the same numbers as in 2008. Really though, I haven't seen a statistical model used that actually makes any assumptions like that. The skew could, however, come from polls (instead of models), but most state polls are now using the statistic of likely voters instead of just registered voters. Are Democrats more probable to claim to be likely to vote and not actually vote? That's the only possibility that I can see.
 
Old 11-03-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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Another sensible liberal I hope more on your side are tempering their confidence of an Obama win. I fear when Romney wins that because the polls have been so bad that folks will claim fraud or some other irregularity which could divide the country further.
Obama has already said he has droves of lawyers ready to act...
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