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Old 11-05-2012, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by BajanYankee View Post
Even if these numbers were right, they still wouldn't be good for Republicans for another reason.

Apparently Party ID in Ohio is based on the last primary you voted in. If you've never voted there, you're identified as "non-affiliated." The 261,000 "swing voters" are not swing voters at all. If anything, they would represent new voters Obama has brought into the fold.
It could highly unlikely he'd get a great share folks aren't motivated to keep status qua and Obama isn't faring too well with 18-22 crowd. All I know is when I apply the EV and ED internals of Ohio polls to Early voting/2008 turnout ratio. I get a Romney win before accounting for undecideds.

Also oddly enough and this has been under reported IMHO is the Black vote in Ohio. Certainly it overwhelmingly goes for Obama but in '08 it went 97-2. In the OH internals it averages around 90.

A five pt shift among Blacks translates to 25K less Obama votes using '08 as a guide. I wonder if the gay marriage thing is having an impact ever so slightly?

 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:16 AM
 
Location: FL
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No such thing is going to happen Dems are underperforming Early voting/ GOP overperforming so +D11 turnout model PPP, CNN and Quinn are showing is wrong. When you factor in the fact that Dems themselves are admitting they may even lose seats in the House you quickly realize there is no Dem wave.

We are staring at a +D2 electorate at best

As an analyst Nate is making an astonishing basic mistake, he is building his model from top line results with some minor tweaks made at the macro level. When building a model you build it from the bottom up and isolate variables that can greatly impact the outcome like turnout.


I'm beginning to worry for the psyche of the Left on Wednesday Obamas defeat is going to come as a brutal shock to them because of folks like Silver. I hope he is fired very dangerous what he is doing.
Is RCP wrong also?
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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With each poll that is released Romney sinks further into the electoral abyss.
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:31 AM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Is RCP wrong also?
BTW, ever notice that a lot of these wingnut types frequently doing all the reckless boasting, also seem to have a "join date" here that just happens to coincide with the major election cycles... after which they simply drop out of sight, only to re-surface again under a new screen name? It's so nice and tidy, and saves ever having to answer for stuff like past lies or willful stupidity (or lost bets), posted before the election!
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:31 AM
 
Location: South East
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With each poll that is released Romney sinks further into the electoral abyss.
ROFL! Wow, you lefties really are delusional.

The polls are TIED....which is not good for a sitting President whom has minions trying to tell everyone he has the election already won.

Presidential Polls 2012: Latest Rasmussen Poll Shows Tie; Swing States Ohio, Michigan, New Hampshire Also Tied

Not good at all. Especially with so many swing states still up for grabs one day before the election.

It will boil down to who can get their people out to vote and the Republicans are very determined this year.
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:33 AM
 
Location: South East
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BTW, ever notice that a lot of these wingnut types frequently doing all the reckless boasting, also seem to have a "join date" here that just happens to coincide with the major election cycles... after which they simply drop out of sight, only to re-surface again under a new screen name? It's so nice and tidy, and saves ever having to answer for stuff like past lies or willful stupidity!
Read and weep, buddy boy!

Presidential Polls 2012: Latest Rasmussen Poll Shows Tie; Swing States Ohio, Michigan, New Hampshire Also Tied

Tied and very close. Not so good for a sitting, albeit disgusting and lame, President.

Better not be boasting yet! BO will be moving soon and will need your help.
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Read and weep, buddy boy!

Presidential Polls 2012: Latest Rasmussen Poll Shows Tie; Swing States Ohio, Michigan, New Hampshire Also Tied

Tied and very close. Not so good for a sitting, albeit disgusting and lame, President.

Better not be boasting yet! BO will be moving soon and will need your help.
Obama surging on Intrade today. He is up to 68%. Everyone but you seems to have gotten the message by now.

Is this what a tie looks like?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1860.html
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:40 AM
 
Location: FL
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BTW, ever notice that a lot of these wingnut types frequently doing all the reckless boasting, also seem to have a "join date" here that just happens to coincide with the major election cycles... after which they simply drop out of sight, only to re-surface again under a new screen name? It's so nice and tidy, and saves ever having to answer for stuff like past lies or willful stupidity (or lost bets), posted before the election!
Yes, the only thing they forget is to change their writing style.
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:47 AM
 
Location: South East
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Obama surging on Intrade today. He is up to 68%. Everyone but you seems to have gotten the message by now.

Is this what a tie looks like?

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Ohio: Romney vs. Obama
Apparently ABC news also did not receive your version of the truth.

Presidential polls: Barack Obama, Mitt Romney launch final blitz
 
Old 11-05-2012, 05:49 AM
 
Location: South East
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BTW, ever notice that a lot of these wingnut types frequently doing all the reckless boasting, also seem to have a "join date" here that just happens to coincide with the major election cycles... after which they simply drop out of sight, only to re-surface again under a new screen name? It's so nice and tidy, and saves ever having to answer for stuff like past lies or willful stupidity (or lost bets), posted before the election!
Nice try at deflection of the topic, but actually, YOU do not get to decide when someone joins or what they post.....got it! Good.

But so glad to see you have so much time on your hands and are so desperate you take the time to look up join dates. Kinda pathetic....
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