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Old 11-02-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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Originally Posted by sanrene View Post
You can throw PPP polls out - a DEMOCRAT pollster that uses ridiculous partisan split to boost obama.
Another buffoon that doesn't understanda that pollsters don't use a party ID model, they simply ask respondents their self-described identification and report it.

 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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I guess some idiots can't understand that some things take longer than four years to fix.

Sure Obama's ARRA saved already there teacher/government jobs, created some green jobs and went to medical records infrastructure, but it was a short term fix and that's why we are still just dragging along.

Some even say unemployment would be around 5 percent today if the stimulus was never passed.
And, that stimulus money just added more to the debt without the same return.

So, I guess if you think Obama's stimulus (ARRA) was successful you'll vote for him.
If one thinks the stimulus was a fail, you would not be an idiot for not voting for Obama IMO.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: NC
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You can throw PPP polls out - a DEMOCRAT pollster that uses ridiculous partisan split to boost obama.
So Rass has trended "nationally" from a signifcant lead for Romney (+4 or +5) to a tie now. Do you believe that trend is incorrect?

Honestly this wouldn't surprise me if Rass stays at a "tie" now to show "look we weren't that far off!"
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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You can throw PPP polls out - a DEMOCRAT pollster that uses ridiculous partisan split to boost obama.
For comparison, in 2008, PPP called Colorado Pbama +10; Obama won Colorado +9, well within PPP's MoE.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...546.html#polls

Yet you still live in this fantasy-world where all their polls are skewed... despite their track-record of accuracy.

 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Originally Posted by Green Onions View Post
For comparison, in 2008, PPP called Colorado Pbama +10; Obama won Colorado +9, well within PPP's MoE.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - Colorado: McCain vs. Obama

Yet you still live in this fantasy-world where all their polls are skewed... despite their track-record of accuracy.

Speaking of Colorado, the Denver Post poll just out has Obama up by 2. Their last poll had Romney up 1.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: West Egg
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You can throw PPP polls out - a DEMOCRAT pollster that uses ridiculous partisan split to boost obama.
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
Speaking of Colorado, the Denver Post poll just out has Obama up by 2. Their last poll had Romney up 1.
I love it!

Because in 2008 the final Denver Post poll (6 days before the election) had Obama +5 -- and he won +9.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...546.html#polls

The Denver Post poll had a bias of R+4. So if they have Obama +2 now... sounds good to me!

 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Rassmussen now says it is tied in Ohio. That's a two point swing to Obama over the past couple days. The RCP average now is nothing but blue (and the tie).
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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I don't have time to run a whole seminar on this topic.

Thank you for posting your question. It points to the total disconnent between Obama's bumper-sticker, campaign-type communications on this matter, and the reality on Main Street. "They are trying to take us back to the policies that got us into this mess!" he says, again and again, as if a healthy banking system is NOT a prerequisite to a healthy economy.


Many community banks over-leveraged themselves in commercial loans pre-crisis. Furthermore community banks were already in a decades long decline. Currently community banks Return on Equity (ROE) has rebounded from -2.8% in 2009 to 8.4% by year-end 2011.

Dodd-Frank designates eight U.S. banks as “systemically important financial institutions” (SIFIs). SIFIs must undergo annual stress tests, adhere to leverage limits and have increased risk-based capital requirements.

SIFIs whose failure could pose dangers to the U.S. financial system are required to be dissolved through an Orderly Liquidation Fund, which would be funded by other large financial institutions.

Federal Register, Volume 77 Issue 121 (Friday, June 22, 2012)
No taxpayer funds shall be used to prevent the liquidation of any
financial company under this title.'' Moreover, section 214(b) provides
that ``[a]ll funds expended in the liquidation of a financial company
under this title shall be recovered from the disposition of assets of
such financial company, or shall be the responsibility of the financial
sector, through assessments.'' Finally, section 214(c) provides that
``[t]axpayers shall bear no losses from the exercise of any authority
under this title.''

Under Dodd-Frank, the Orderly Liquidation Authority allows for a liquidation of any of the 8 large banks to prevent the taxpayer from bailing out banks, so President Obama is correct that Dodd-Frank prevents taxpayer bailouts that are synonymous with too big to fail.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:46 PM
 
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Don't forget- in 2008 10 million more women voted than men. If this trend continues, Obama might win by a landslide.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC USA
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with 4 days to go, Obama is up in Colorado by 4 points and other battleground states. Obama is on the path to victory!

North Carolina is closer than the media is aware of. The PPP poll shows a tie between Obama and Romney 49% to 49%. Other polling in the state shows the same results so NC has gone from leaning Romney to toss up. The big early voting democratic turn out could tip NC over to Obama.

(ppp poll)

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

Colorado:

Obama 50%
Romney 46%


Virginia:

Obama 49%
Romney 46%


North Carolina:

Obama 49%
Romney 49%


Ohio:

Obama 50%
Romney 45%


Florida:

Obama 49%
Romney 48%


New Hampshire:

Obama 49%
Romney 47%


Wisconsin:

Obama 51%
Romney 46%


Iowa:

Obama 50%
Romney 45%


Michigan:

Obama 53%
Romney 45%


Nationally Obama up 1 point

Obama 49%
Romney 48%

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