***Presidential Polls*** #2 (voters, thought, liberals, Obama)

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

Sure if you count polls conducted on the behalf of liberal groups.

Except some of these same firms have turned out the most depressing of polls for the Dems in the last couple weeks.

[walidm]

Originally Posted by EdwardA

Sure if you count polls conducted on the behalf of liberal groups.

Weak argument.

Most of the polls have shown the President losing ground for a couple of weeks.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by walidm

Weak argument.

Most of the polls have shown the President losing ground for a couple of weeks.

I was referring to PPP polls that were explicitly done by PPP for a liberal Health Care Group (The NC poll excluded) and the Grove polls on HuffPo.

You'll notice on RCP has only the NC PPP poll is included.

[EdwardA]

Originally Posted by gtc08

Obama takes the lead in RCP map 201 to 191.

North Carolina from Romney to Tossup.

PPP had to scour for more Dems in '08 to get Obama to a tie but whatever. NC is Romney.

[Bulldogdad]

Its good to keep a positive frame of mind when your liberal world is falling apart. LOL

[mb1547]

So what happened? Is it that Florida went back from leans Romney to toss up? It looks like Obama has stayed where he is in terms of likely state wins, and Romney lost ground somewhere. They seem to be neck and neck in Florida now, where it looked like that was going to be a Romney win last week. If Obama can pull ahead in Florida plus get Ohio, the race is over.

[iknowftbll]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

Whether it was the third debate, or people catching on to the flip flops, or maybe even Mourdock, the race is trending back to Obama as reflected in the latest update to RCP electoral map:

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Electoral Map

They moved N. Carolina from "Leans Romney" to "Toss Up" accounting for the drop of 15 electoral votes from 206 to 191. If you click on N. Carolina you will see the RCP average is Romney +5. It is going to be a close election followed I suspect by a lot of litigation.

[TigerLily24]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

It looks like the momentum has shifted to Obama.

Apologies if this has already been posted, but, Mr. Silver has a dry wit that I really do appreciate.

"What isn’t very likely, however, is for one candidate to lose ground in five of six polls if the race is still moving toward him. In other words, we can debate whether Mr. Obama has a pinch of momentum or whether the race is instead flat, but it’s improbable that Mr. Romney would have a day like this if he still had momentum."


Oct. 24: In Polls, Romney's Momentum Seems to Have Stopped - NYTimes.com

[kingtodd]

I don't believe FL is out of reach for the POTUS. I'll definitely make my FL vote count!

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by iknowftbll

They moved N. Carolina from "Leans Romney" to "Toss Up" accounting for the drop of 15 electoral votes from 206 to 191. If you click on N. Carolina you will see the RCP average is Romney +5. It is going to be a close election followed I suspect by a lot of litigation.

Ah--thanks.