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Old 10-26-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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I wonder how many of these threads existed in 2008. All the distorted electoral college predictions, "Will Blacks riot if Obama loses?" and "what will liberals do when McCain wins?" threads made fools of people then and do the same thing now. Notice how it always comes from the right wingers? It isn't because all of us Liberals have given up and think Romney is a sure win, it's because we understand how an election works and if isn't over until the fat lady sings. Besides Obama is no Al Gore or John Kerry.
Neither Gore nor Kerry were President. That the race is this close is symptomatic of Obama's weakness. That does not mean he will lose but a sitting president with a half decent record should be way ahead.

 
Old 10-26-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Colorado Springs. That and the eastern flatlands boarder counties part of the state which might as well be part of Kansas.
City data's own page lists Colorado Springs people claiming a relegious affiliation is 37.10%, which last I checked is well below the national average of 50.2%. Sterling the largest town on the eastern plains is just over 40%, As for the small towns on eastern boarder, you may be correct, those 50,000 people that are out there seem to have about 60% of them being religious, meaning the big church going gang of people out on the eastern plains of Colorado equal out about 5% of the Denver population.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 09:48 PM
 
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Can you elaborate on the numbers you ran? Just curious.
No .... I am not going to give you details of my income.

But ... as a retired person for whom dividend income is important, the change in the tax treatment of dividends and capital gains will be a big hit.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Miramar Beach, FL
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Absolutely. Obama has to raise them so his children (the 47%) can keep their Obama phone turned on
Wow, that was a very profound thought.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Miramar Beach, FL
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No .... I am not going to give you details of my income.

But ... as a retired person for whom dividend income is important, the change in the tax treatment of dividends and capital gains will be a big hit.
Fair enough. I respect that.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 09:56 PM
 
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Neither Gore nor Kerry were President. That the race is this close is symptomatic of Obama's weakness. That does not mean he will lose but a sitting president with a half decent record should be way ahead.
I know they weren't, that was my point. The last three elections were close. Was it symptomatic of Bush's weakness? Obama's not weak at all, but he certainly is hated without good reason. Not all sitting presidents win by a landslide, this goes for both Republicans and Democrats.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 10:01 PM
 
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This election will be sweet revenge for democrats for the 2000 Gore defeat when Gore won the popular vote and lost the electoral college.

This should drive the conservatives absolutely nuts.
Yeah, if Gaius Julius Caesar wins it will be great with all the cheering and gloating going on.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Miramar Beach, FL
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I know they weren't, that was my point. The last three elections were close. Was it symptomatic of Bush's weakness? Obama's not weak at all, but he certainly is hated without good reason. Not all sitting presidents win by a landslide, this goes for both Republicans and Democrats.
It's going to be close, for sure.
 
Old 10-26-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Neither Gore nor Kerry were President. That the race is this close is symptomatic of Obama's weakness. That does not mean he will lose but a sitting president with a half decent record should be way ahead.
Bush's average Election Day 2004 approval rating was 48.5%. Obamas' is currently 48.7%.

Ken
 
Old 10-26-2012, 10:11 PM
 
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As Romney continues to lose momentum, he must also confront the
implications of a serious Electoral Map deficiency.

Take Florida for instance. The Republicans have 500,000 fewer registered
voters than the Democrats. Romney must confront this math even as his
momentum erodes.
It's all about Ohio and no Republican has won without it. The fact that Romney is drawing effort to Wisconsin conveys that he knows that race is run and has to compensate. It may be like the 1960 and 2000 elections where one candidate wins popular vote and the other win the electoral map and the presidency. Romney sure had a Nixonian sweat going one in that last debate. We know how that went over last time.
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