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Old 10-31-2012, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Yes, I know exactly how it works

Presidents propose budgets
Congress passes them
Presidents APPROVE THEM..

FAIL!!

Its up to Congress to write and pass a budget APPROVED BY THE PRESIDENT

So Obama holds no blame for bills HE proposes, and then HE SIGNS?
It's good to see you finally understand a bit about how the process works, or doesn't work.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I know. Since when did it become Obama's? I seem to recall a bipartisan Congress voting for it and John Boehner bragging about getting 97% of what he wanted in the debt deal. Hmmm?
Didn't that guy who wants to be veep vote for it too?

Yeah, he did.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
Yes, I know exactly how it works

Presidents propose budgets
Congress passes them
Presidents APPROVE THEM..

FAIL!!

Its up to Congress to write and pass a budget APPROVED BY THE PRESIDENT

So Obama holds no blame for bills HE proposes, and then HE SIGNS?
In this case NO he does not. A president can only sign or veto what is sent before him by the congress. If congress can't get anything to him, that's on them, not the president. He did his job, it was up to congress to do theirs. Again the whole separation of powers is tripping you up big time.

Ergo, since congress is the only branch of government that can approve a budget to pass off to the president to sign or veto, the onus falls on them. No matter how you feel about the president, it still does not stop government from functioning the way it does. Presidents do not pass laws, they do not pass budgets. They enforce the laws and pay the bills set forth by congress.

The epic fail is on your part and the lack of basic government 101 knowledge.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by NoJiveMan View Post
Here you go with the personal attacks again.

Doesn't the congress write the legislation?
Isn't it, wasn't it the do nothing congress (majority of republicans) who could not get a budget together because of the tea party faction?

thank you.
Aren't you a RW lemming?
pot/kettle.

defer/deflect

I suppose the supercommittee is off the hook for blame?

from your link
You ask why I go on with personal attacks, and then you come back saying something so ridiculously dumb.

First, No Congress is NOT majority Republicans.. The HOUSE is.. The Senate is Democrats.. Both branches are EQUAL. And when the PRESIDENT signs the bills into law, HE HOLDS RESPONSIBILITY..

You mean, the committe, CREATED BY OBAMA..
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by treasurefinder View Post
All of Washington owns the sequester, the President, Dems and Republicans.
Come on now, be hip, and attach "Obama" to everything.

And don't forget to ask for cuts, and when you get them, cry about them. Be hip! Be a liberal Republican.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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In this case NO he does not. A president can only sign or veto what is sent before him by the congress. If congress can't get anything to him, that's on them, not the president. He did his job, it was up to congress to do theirs. Again the whole separation of powers is tripping you up big time.

Ergo, since congress is the only branch of government that can approve a budget to pass off to the president to sign or veto, the onus falls on them. No matter how you feel about the president, it still does not stop government from functioning the way it does. Presidents do not pass laws, they do not pass budgets. They enforce the laws and pay the bills set forth by congress.

The epic fail is on your part and the lack of basic government 101 knowledge.
OBAMA SIGNED THE BILL

Obama must detail which programs get 'sequester' ax | The Daily Caller

Complete failure on YOUR PART...
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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FEMA will lose $878 Million due to Obama sequester

More lies. Some people just can't tell the truth. They suffer from Romnesia!

Romney/Ryan would end FEMA. Congress has the option of sequestering funds because it didn't do its job with debt/budget, etc. And the President is hitting home runs all day long ... by demonstrating the difference between a wannabe and a President.

The "American Taliban." They say they love America, but every day and in every way ... they hate Americans.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Come on now, be hip, and attach "Obama" to everything.
Or we could be dumb, and pretend Obama holds no blame for anything..
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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More lies. Some people just can't tell the truth. They suffer from Romnesia!

Romney/Ryan would end FEMA. Congress has the option of sequestering funds because it didn't do its job with debt/budget, etc. And the President is hitting home runs all day long ... by demonstrating the difference between a wannabe and a President.

The "American Taliban." They say they love America, but every day and in every way ... they hate Americans.
See, here is a prime example as to liberal hypocracy..

Per your arguments non stop, Republicans to blame for all of the massive spending, Obama tries to cut

Now here is Obama trying to cut, and its a 180 for you kooks.. nooo, its all Republicans, Democrats had nothing to do with it..

You guys sound sillier and sillier every single day..
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Or we could be dumb, and pretend Obama holds no blame for anything..
Blame? There is nothing blame. I'm cool with cuts. You cry about cuts, and I want to cut, that's the difference between you and me.
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