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Old 11-07-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly said tonight that if President Barack Obama wins re-election, it’s because the demographics of the country have changed and “it’s not a traditional America anymore.”
1: There's no "if President Barack Obama wins" ... because he won. Unless, of course, O'Reilly is referring to waiting for the convening of the Electoral College.

2. O'Reilly seems unaware that people of color inhabited what's now the USA long before it was the USA and a strong argument can be made that persons of color constitute the true "traditional America."

FOX badly embarassed itself during it's election coverage last night. Watch it for entertainment value if you want, but not as a credible source of news.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Does the GOP have to become liberal in order to win an election? Then we will only have one party to choose from. Is that what you want?
When even Reagan would be considered a lib-rul now (or at best a RINO), the current GOP clearly has a lo-o-ng way to go, before it has to worry about "becoming liberal"!

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No we don't wonder why Romney lost. He was too decent a human being. Some of these people have the American name but they put something else in front of it therefore suggesting that just being an American is not enough. Obama is playing these people by borrowing money from China and giving it to them and saying that those of us who pay our own way should pay more so he can keep doing the same.

He is playing them in order to get control of everyone in this country and they are falling for it hook, line and sinker. Their actions are unAmerican. True Americans take care of themselves. My ancestors have been doing that for generations.
Ah yes, the "hillbilly vote" (aka, "we're the real Amurikins and we're 'entitled'... unlike all them other folks who ain't from around here!"). Now cue the banjo theme from Deliverance!

Well, Karl Rove's old "culture wars" strategy may have worked for Dubya, but as y'all would say, "that dog don't hunt no more"...
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Ah yes, the "hillbilly vote" (aka, "we're the real Amurikins and we're 'entitled'... unlike all them other folks who ain't from around here!"). Now cue the banjo theme from Deliverance!

Well, Karl Rove's old "culture wars" strategy may have worked for Dubya, but as y'all would say, "that dog don't hunt no more"...
Actually, Bush reached out for the Latino vote, and won 39%, 12% more than MR. 12% last night = 1.5 million votes, and swings Va, Fl, NM, Colorado...
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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When even Reagan would be considered a lib-rul now (or at best a RINO), the current GOP clearly has a lo-o-ng way to go, before it has to worry about "becoming liberal"!



Ah yes, the "hillbilly vote" (aka, "we're the real Amurikins and we're 'entitled'... unlike all them other folks who ain't from around here!"). Now cue the banjo theme from Deliverance!

Well, Karl Rove's old "culture wars" strategy may have worked for Dubya, but as y'all would say, "that dog don't hunt no more"...
The hillbilly vote? If you think that most Republicans are hillbillies then I'd like to know what your smoking. Your racism against white America by puttiing those labels on us is showing once again.

I have no problem with non-whites just a long as they are here legally. I just wish that more of them would ahere to the traditional values of this country instead of liberalism, socialism and a tribal mentality.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:25 PM
 
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Actually, Bush reached out for the Latino vote, and won 39%, 12% more than MR. 12% last night = 1.5 million votes, and swings Va, Fl, NM, Colorado...
Yeah, and what did Bush have to do to reach out them? He had to try and push an amnesty which is not in the best interests of this country but Hispanics apparently didn't care about that.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Actually, Bush reached out for the Latino vote, and won 39%, 12% more than MR. 12% last night = 1.5 million votes, and swings Va, Fl, NM, Colorado...
Good point, although arguably the whole GOP was also more moderate and less obviously xenophobic back then (even with the culture wars).

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The hillbilly vote? If you think that most Republicans are hillbillies then I'd like to know what your smoking. Your racism against white America by puttiing those labels on us is showing once again.

I have no problem with non-whites just a long as they are here legally. I just wish that more of them would ahere to the traditional values of this country instead of liberalism, socialism and a tribal mentality.
Nope, hillbillies are simply another key GOP demographic, just like the "anti-illegals vote". Speaking of which, how's that "attitude" been working for 'ya...?
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Well, let's see... The new traditional America has...

Banks, owning properties over-inflated in value, keeping people who take out mortgages as serfs dedicated to preserving their FICO scores perpetually with a terminus in a fat-invested 401k. It is a life-long serfdom leading to a non-producing leeching of capital without actual production of anything but revenue.

The average American person cannot afford their own home. That is why they must take out large mortgages. Same for cars, maintaining affluent-appearing enviable life'styles' and so on & on.

Segregation via ideology, economy and the intertwining of race thru a stupified cultural focus centered on unilateral acceptance without reflection or logic.

Those volunteers still feed the hungry and will until they have nothing to serve.

As long as the American Empire can, it will meddle in other countries' affairs. It still does. Now we have a DHS that will prod into American lives as it will and the TSA gropes & steals & stares at x-ray photos @ domestic airports. Feel safe enough yet?

World War II was uninteresting to Americans until FDR & Co. forced Japan to attack Pearl Harbor by dint of an oil embargo, the last straw for a burgeoning Japan. Quite a traditional false flag if ever there was one- and it got the US out of the Depression. SE Asia was the continuation of the Korean War- as a counterpoint to keeping Asia open to Western ideology & future markets.

The moon landing? All that Nazi tech brought in by the likes of Werner von Braun actually is celebrated? Would you like to ponder the interesting connection of Dr. Martin Bormann, tick research, Plum Island, NY and Lyme, CT? The ole' Soviets got some of those scientists, too. Progress can be distressing when the roots of it are known.

American standards of living are in decline, nonetheless all the associative gilted products made in Asia (Korean War? > Vietnam War? > Japanese electronics & current Chinese manufacturing = a successful economic territorial war) that people find indispensible- that are made in Asian 'slave' factories. America can no longer afford to create what it deems indispensible at home. Perhaps that is why so many Americans live in such squalor and need government subsidies, such as traditional American farmers who must grovel for civic monies to place food at market and in over a hundred other countries globally. What is all this business in the ME all about? Oil is just one piece of the puzzle; clear perusal of history provides a few others.

Ah, drugs! The war on drugs is ever-purposeful. It provides markets (& employments) in corrections/rehabilitations, psychiatrics, pharmaceuticals, various health industries, etc. Are you aware that the war on drugs is coming into full fruition as quite the enabler of the health industrial complex? Why buy your dope on a street corner when you can get it from a certified doctor made in the (presumably) sterile environments of a corporate facility? Fully legalized marijuana will come in pill form. Our children are being taught that healthy living comes in milligrams and proper dosages supplied by health professionals under the patina of salvation from disease, physical and/or mental. There is always more prevention to another official 'illness' that plagues our citizenry. Why Americans are so relaxed about this... but feeling good & believing in aiding good health are indispensible, no? And all those 'luxury' taxes are a dedicated source of revenue!

Traditional America IS alive & well and you willfully participate it and just as willfully ignore what you don't want to see of it. Don't let the bright neon lights of false distraction guile you into feeling otherwise.
You couldn't be more wrong! Those ideals are in direct conflict with traditional America. You apparently don't know what traditional America was.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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Good point, although arguably the whole GOP was also more moderate and less obviously xenophobic back then (even with the culture wars).


Nope, hillbillies are simply another key GOP demographic, just like the "anti-illegals vote". Speaking of which, how's that "attitude" been working for 'ya...?
Xenophobic? Please explain.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Good point, although arguably the whole GOP was also more moderate and less obviously xenophobic back then (even with the culture wars).


Nope, hillbillies are simply another key GOP demographic, just like the "anti-illegals vote". Speaking of which, how's that "attitude" been working for 'ya...?
You're out of your mind if you don't think there aren't any Democrat hillbillies. Hillbillies love handouts! This is just you and your leftist buddies way to demonize the entire conservative movement. Both parties have their radicals in them. The reconquistas are the radicals on YOUR side!

We shouldn't be opposed to illegal immigration? How so?
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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1: There's no "if President Barack Obama wins" ... because he won. Unless, of course, O'Reilly is referring to waiting for the convening of the Electoral College.

2. O'Reilly seems unaware that people of color inhabited what's now the USA long before it was the USA and a strong argument can be made that persons of color constitute the true "traditional America."

FOX badly embarassed itself during it's election coverage last night. Watch it for entertainment value if you want, but not as a credible source of news.
This is about traditional values not color of skin or race. Nice try but no cigar.
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