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They were damn lucky to keep control of the House. The only reason they did was because of all the gerrymandering. Even then they lost several seats in the House and in the Senate. Most of the teabaggers that ran (including Allen West) got voted out this time as well.
I guess alienating women, intimidating minorities, legitimizing rapes, and trying to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or incest didn't fly this time. Neither did proposing tax cuts for the wealthy, disbanding FEMA, saying rape was God's will, or suggesting a woman's body can naturally reject the pregnancies.
Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do to the Koch brothers and other millionaires and billionaires whose money he squandered trying to buy this election. Purging voters, cutting down on early voting, and making people wait in line for 8 hours with a 14-page ballot wasn't very effective, either.
With any luck, let's hope they wake up and realize the 1950's are long over, women make up more than half the population, and minorities make up a larger percentage. You see, mathematics don't lie. Just like Bill Clinton said, you can't cut taxes and expect to pay off the national debt. You also can't expect rich white males to be the majority when the wealthy in fact make up 1% of the population. Grover Norquist must have left his calculator home.
The sooner the GOP realizes there are more women, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, gays, lesbians, transgenders, poor, and working class people than there are rich WASP males, the easier it'll be for them to live in the 21st century and relate to all 315 million and counting Americans rather the wealthiest 400.
Don't be surprised if they don't lose control of the House in 2014 after Obamacare goes into full effect and unemployment is even lower. Women will have as much access to healthcare for the same rates as men. Maybe when the Afghan War is over, the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act goes into effect, and Citizens United gets overturned, the hens will really come home to roost. Finally, don't be surprised if your next president or the one after that is a woman.
what is another word for nonsense? Some might say BULLS@@#
The Democrats were lucky to keep control of the senate: if it hadn't been for a couple of jerky statements by a couple of Republican candidates it would have gone the other way: talk about gerrymandering, If it hadn't been for that Alan West would not have lost. We had some gerrymandering here in AR, it was supposed to favor the Democrats: what happened? For the first time since 1874 the Republicans control the state house and the our new house of Rep member is a Republican. So, right now, only for Fed elected rep which is a conservative Dem is in office. How do you explain all the Republican Governors?
Lets hope unemployment is down, that should be a no brainer; recessions run their course, the problem with your theory is: most of the jobs being created now are less than full time, which mean workers will have to work 2 jobs to get 40 hours in, and many major companies have double the cost of health insurance or gone with independent contractors instead of in house employees.
You know there is nothing more interesting than sensible political debates but when one side is so far out of touch and so liberal the debate becomes worthless. That is what has happened here, you are letting your totally out of control liberal views influence, what I would hope, is your better senses...
LIE, Bush DEBT included war spending. Another ignorant Democrat who relies upon Obama lies for their talking point.
Color me surprised that this right wing genius can't tell difference between debt and deficit. But then, he/she went off the track with the very first response, and out of habit... republican for a reason.
[quote[You cant spend a DIME without it being accounted for somewhere, the fact that they created seperate budgets for it, doesnt mean the totals werent calculated. [/quote]
Not in "budget deficit" you genius wannabe. It only shows up after the fact (so idiots can blame the next guy).
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Bull crap, one of the first things Democrats did was increase the minimum wage saying the economy was strong enough to substain any increase. Now you're telling me the Democrats took over because the economy was bad..
Economic disaster was pretty much guaranteed in 2005 based on the state of economy. But then, leave it to those who didn't have their head stuck in the sand to be aware of that.
We wont need to adopt because the liberal utopia society is unsubstainable. At some point when the dollar crashes, and we cant issue anymore debt, the country wont have a choice but to resort to conservative practices. Cuts will be needed EVERYWHERE.. and those very people who voted in iresponsible spending, will be hurt the most.
Keep on waiting for that ... no need to actually work on your platform, policies or messaging. You stay home and watch Fox, we'll just putter on without you.
Color me surprised that this right wing genius can't tell difference between debt and deficit. But then, he/she went off the track with the very first response, and out of habit... republican for a reason.
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You cant spend a DIME without it being accounted for somewhere, the fact that they created seperate budgets for it, doesnt mean the totals werent calculated.
Not in "budget deficit" you genius wannabe. It only shows up after the fact (so idiots can blame the next guy).
Economic disaster was pretty much guaranteed in 2005 based on the state of economy. But then, leave it to those who didn't have their head stuck in the sand to be aware of that.
Color me surprised that another left wing kook doesnt understand that deficits add to the debt.
Hey Einstein, if the deficits were "hidden", from the war, then why the hell did the debt rise at such a slow pace during most of Bushs years until Democrats took over?
That debt increase was WAR SPENDING..
And explain to me why the GDP was growing at such a great pace, and if the collapse was almost guaranteed, why the Democrats fought any reforms?
Keep on waiting for that ... no need to actually work on your platform, policies or messaging. You stay home and watch Fox, we'll just putter on without you.
Do you really think debt levels of 100%+ of GDP is substainable for long periods of time? How about 150%? What do you do when interest rates rise to 5% and we have a $20T+ national debt, and we need to pay $1T+ a year in interest? Where does the emoney come from?
Do you want to discuss reality, or sit at your computer all day attacking "Fox"?
They were damn lucky to keep control of the House. The only reason they did was because of all the gerrymandering. Even then they lost several seats in the House and in the Senate. Most of the teabaggers that ran (including Allen West) got voted out this time as well.
I guess alienating women, intimidating minorities, legitimizing rapes, and trying to outlaw abortion even in cases of rape or incest didn't fly this time. Neither did proposing tax cuts for the wealthy, disbanding FEMA, saying rape was God's will, or suggesting a woman's body can naturally reject the pregnancies.
Karl Rove has a lot of explaining to do to the Koch brothers and other millionaires and billionaires whose money he squandered trying to buy this election. Purging voters, cutting down on early voting, and making people wait in line for 8 hours with a 14-page ballot wasn't very effective, either.
With any luck, let's hope they wake up and realize the 1950's are long over, women make up more than half the population, and minorities make up a larger percentage. You see, mathematics don't lie. Just like Bill Clinton said, you can't cut taxes and expect to pay off the national debt. You also can't expect rich white males to be the majority when the wealthy in fact make up 1% of the population. Grover Norquist must have left his calculator home.
The sooner the GOP realizes there are more women, blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Asians, gays, lesbians, transgenders, poor, and working class people than there are rich WASP males, the easier it'll be for them to live in the 21st century and relate to all 315 million and counting Americans rather the wealthiest 400.
Don't be surprised if they don't lose control of the House in 2014 after Obamacare goes into full effect and unemployment is even lower. Women will have as much access to healthcare for the same rates as men. Maybe when the Afghan War is over, the Lilly Ledbetter Equal Pay Act goes into effect, and Citizens United gets overturned, the hens will really come home to roost. Finally, don't be surprised if your next president or the one after that is a woman.
Take two aspirin and call me back when you feel better.
Honestly, I think if R's moved more to the center, D's would start moving more to the left, and the center would still win. In lots of instances, the D's are inhabiting the political space right now where the R party used to live. I know some of you don't want to believe that--you're convinced that every democrat is a socialist--but it's true. I don't think you get how far right the new GOP has shifted since they first started coming back into power with Nixon.
I thinks it's just the opposite. The country has drifted left over the decades. John F Kennedy would be a Republican today. Someone like Obama would be considered so far left he would have had no chance to win in the past (regardless of race). Now we consider this far leftism center and mainstream.
If Reps become too much like Dems we will have one party rule just with two different names... the one called "Democrat" would still win.
Issues like giving women free birth control are trivial compared to record deficit spending and all the ramifications of it.
I don't think Republicans should become more like Democrats policy-wise. To me that would be bad. We need more than one party... preferably more than 2 at the table IMO, but that's another story.
He's the problem, to me:
Young single woman pays for health insurance, relies on birth control, wants her insurance to cover her pills at no cost (like some plans do with other preventive medicines like asthma meds, etc.)
Republican Position: While you do pay a premium for your health insurance, making that particular drug free to policy holders would mean that premiums would go up for everyone as insurance companies have to find a way to offset the costs. Since we feel there are currently many venues through which to find cheap birth control, and since one of our core values is that people should handle as many issues for themselves as possible without spreading the burden to others, we are against that particular policy.
Republican Message Machine: You are a sl*t who wants everyone to pay for all the sex you are having. Mooching immoral wh*re. You have an entitlement mentality and are destroying the country. **The faithful cheer and chant, "You told her!"**
You could write something like this on every issue. Its not the policy, its the message.
Do you really think debt levels of 100%+ of GDP is substainable for long periods of time? How about 150%? What do you do when interest rates rise to 5% and we have a $20T+ national debt, and we need to pay $1T+ a year in interest? Where does the emoney come from?
Do you want to discuss reality, or sit at your computer all day attacking "Fox"?
We survived G Bush's rape of the middle class ... you'll live. Like I said, don't worry your pretty little head about it. We've got things covered, so you can continue wringing your hands and waiting for the End Times.
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