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Old 02-15-2013, 07:00 AM
 
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I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.

Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.

Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.

Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.

Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.

Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.

You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.

What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.

If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:32 AM
 
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Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.
I have to take exception to this. There is nothing wrong with stating and believing that your country is the greatest place on Earth as long as you at least have a reasonable argument for that. I have no problem with someone from Germany believing they are the greatest nation, or Australia, or France.

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Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.
The Tea Party see's it as a win when a candidate or either party is defeated that they do not support. If they win in the primaries but lose the election they still see that as a win. They refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils. I completely support that idea.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.

Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.

Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.

Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.

Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.

Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.

You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.

What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.

If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
"Dump the any war is good and we need a military"

I stopped right there. Not worth wasting any more time on ignorant claims.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:56 AM
 
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I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.

Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.

Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.

Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.

Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.

Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.

You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.

What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.

If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
Here are lies of the lefty liberals and what I wish they would do:

1. Just because the conservative right opposes a "traditional" marriage between gays does not mean that they are anti-gay or hate gays.

2. Stop using the extreme right and their stupid statements that they make to stereotype the entire right.

3. Stop insisting that the right change their stance on abortion. They have every right to be pro-life and advocate ceasing the killing of the unborn.

4. No one is trying to get rid of SS and Medicare. Any sane person knows those programs will have to be reformed in order to keep them solvent.

5. Cutting "wasteful" spending is one of the tools to keep our country financially stable while still taxing everyone fairly. Not all on the right advocate for useless, expensive wars either.

6. The majority on the right are not pandering to the extreme religous right (whatever that is anyway).

7. Speaking of pandering, the hypocrites on the left believe in pandering to an ethnocentric group (Hispanics) for votes by advocating putting their ethnic group above our immigration laws and rewarding them for breaking them while we have 23 million Americans out of work.

8. The teapartiers (not baggers) aren't a political party so therefore which election did they run in?

9. I have to laugh when you refer to God. We have ten commandments given to us by God. The left should be the last ones to bring up God into this discussion when they are the biggest offenders of them. But it is the right who should change and allow this country to be destroyed by the progressive left?
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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I dont think the RNC should change or "water down" their core principals...I just wished they would run on those ideas.

Be up front with the American people to what exactly they believe and would work to change.

Clearly, in the last election, they tried to focus exclusively on the Economy..and tried to steer the conversation clear of all other issues.

Why? I believe, if they truthfully explained their stance on the issues [passionately and forcefully] like: Immigration, Abortion, Contraceptives, Women in combat, Violence against women act...and so on and so on, they would have a hard time winning any future presidental election.

but what do i know.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 AM
 
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The right-wing is losing the war against gay marriage.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:13 AM
 
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Cap and trade was defeated while the Dems had total control of Congress. I think they should totally drop the idea.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Here are lies of the lefty liberals and what I wish they would do:

1. Just because the conservative right opposes a "traditional" marriage between gays does not mean that they are anti-gay or hate gays.

2. Stop using the extreme right and their stupid statements that they make to stereotype the entire right.

3. Stop insisting that the right change their stance on abortion. They have every right to be pro-life and advocate ceasing the killing of the unborn.

4. No one is trying to get rid of SS and Medicare. Any sane person knows those programs will have to be reformed in order to keep them solvent.

5. Cutting "wasteful" spending is one of the tools to keep our country financially stable while still taxing everyone fairly. Not all on the right advocate for useless, expensive wars either.

6. The majority on the right are not pandering to the extreme religous right (whatever that is anyway).

7. Speaking of pandering, the hypocrites on the left believe in pandering to an ethnocentric group (Hispanics) for votes by advocating putting their ethnic group above our immigration laws and rewarding them for breaking them while we have 23 million Americans out of work.

8. The teapartiers (not baggers) aren't a political party so therefore which election did they run in?

9. I have to laugh when you refer to God. We have ten commandments given to us by God. The left should be the last ones to bring up God into this discussion when they are the biggest offenders of them. But it is the right who should change and allow this country to be destroyed by the progressive left?
You mean by Moses, unless you really believe a bush was on fire (and not being consumed by said fire) and poof, out of the bush came two stone tablets with laws written on them. Laws like don't covet your neighbors farm animals?

I don't believe in blind faith, I believe in reason. Too many people in this country believe in hocus pocus, and in the same breath trash science. The same science that allows them to climb into a metal tube and fly at over 30,000 feet and over 600 mph. Yeah, keep your crazy religion out of our public policy and government.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:40 AM
 
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I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.

Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.

Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.

Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.

Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.

Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.

You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.

What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.

If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
Won't happen, the right wingers are too stupid to realize that.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:51 AM
 
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I would vote for the right if they would draw back to the issues they are best at.

Dump the anit gay thing. Even Dick Cheney has a gay daughter and does not have a problem with it.
Dump the anti abortion thing.
Dump the any war is good and we need a military that is bigger than the next 20 nations combined we can't afford it.
Dump the idea that you can get rid of Social Security and Medicare and you can stop some kind of socialized medicine.
Keep the idea that we need to get our spending in order and dump the idea that the rich are the makers and the workers are the takers. You have cut too many of the voters to ever win.

Dump the idea that that this is the greatest nation in the world and start to say for you its the best place and greatest place in the world. It makes you look dumb when you tell everyone "this is the greatest place in the world. " Based on what? Many people feel they live in the greatest nation in the world. People living in London love it there and would not think of moving. So too with people who live in Germany and France. Many Americans become X-Patriots and move to these places.

Quit pandering to the far right religious nuts and saying things like legitimate rape and god has a plan for rape babies. When some idiot does and they are on your side dump them and tell the world they are not part of the party platform.

Are you worried that the base will not vote for you? Where are they going to go? The tea baggers can't seem to win an election. They have a much worse record than the Republicans.

Stop saying out of one side of your mouth that global warming is fake then its not man made. Which is it? Fake or Natures cycle? This is going to be an unwindable hill to die on. You can say we need all the evidence in before we make desisions on how to change our whole way of life ect. But when the Koch brothers commissioned a study and it shows its real and man made, how do you think you can keep fighting it? This is worse than fighting for Tobacco as it affects many more people, All of them in fact.

You can't keep picking these hills to die on. Its not winnable. We don't need all the military build up we have, we don't need to put Christian prayer back into school. You know what? If some Christian kid is a real christian he/she can just say a prayer in their head and you know what? No one has to know.

What about the scripture that tells you not to be displaying your godliness to be show others how pious you are and pray to your god is secret.

If you want to survive as a party and a force in the USA you are going to have to change. If not keep steering into the ice berg.
In other words.... "whaaaaaaaa - stop disagreeing with liberals!!!"

Typical anti-GOP scree, filled with straw dogs and misrepresentations. Geez, you even thru in the iconic reference to the Koch brothers.
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