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View Poll Results: What should be the voting restrictions/requirements?
Photo ID Required 32 59.26%
Property ownership required to vote in that state 7 12.96%
You must have paid income taxes in the previous year 11 20.37%
You must score higher than an 85 on an IQ test 11 20.37%
The voting age should be raised to 21 11 20.37%
You must be fluent in English 20 37.04%
None - the requirements are fine as they are 21 38.89%
There should be fewer requirements 2 3.70%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-10-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Democracies all work the same way, it is people voting for government to do what is in their interests. The argument for restrictions to voting rights, is basically an argument that the interests of some people are "more important" than the interests of others.

Almost no one votes for "what is right", everyone votes "with their wallet". It is something which has been proven over and over and over again in every election, ever. If you restrict the vote in any way, what are you going to accomplish? Giving businesses more power than they already have?


The root of the complaints about voting rights. Is a recognition that some people are morons, or who are selfish. And that, their vote effectively cancels out your vote. You try to devise a system to kick the morons out of the voting pool, without really trying to understand why it is neither possible, nor is it desirable.

We rant about how much we hate that "money" influences elections. You'll hear the media decry the influence of money every day of the week. Of course, they seem to ignore the fact that the media influences elections even more than money. I would actually put the top three influences in elections as, "the media", government indoctrination facilities(public schools), and then money at number three.


I gave up on democracy a long time ago. I don't see the point in defending it. It was never that great to begin with. What really made America great wasn't that we were a Democracy. It was that we started out an incredibly limited Republic, largely neutral in world affairs, with tons of land, and an extremely open immigration policy.

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Old 06-10-2014, 10:10 PM
 
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I hope you are being sarcastic.
I hope you don't vote.
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Old 06-10-2014, 10:38 PM
 
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I hope you don't vote.
I don't watch Hannity, I do listen to Rush.

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You're a maple.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:11 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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a US citizen, age 18 or older, with proper photo ID, and is registered to vote, should be able to vote. those are the only restrictions needed, unless you are a convicted felon and your rights have been suspended.

Yep.
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Old 06-11-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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a US citizen, age 18 or older, with proper photo ID, and is registered to vote, should be able to vote. those are the only restrictions needed, unless you are a convicted felon and your rights have been suspended.

It's just this simple. When people attempt to limit voters it means they don't like the way things are going for their party.

Reggie
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:59 PM
 
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An IQ test.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:08 PM
 
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The poll shows how liberal C-D is. Only 55% here favor photo ID, whereas huge majorities support it in the general public.

Why? Because only a liberal party hack would be against showing an ID to vote.
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Old 06-12-2014, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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An ID should be required. Frankly, I'd also support raising the age back to 21. But a constitutional amendment would be required to be passed to allow that.

IQ tests would be nice in theory. A better choice would be requiring a minimum of a high school diploma or GED. Any other requirements...no.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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Owning property might make sense in a state like mine where property taxes are out of control. As for the income requirement, I hand a job and paid taxes as a college student. Retired people pay taxes on certain income as well.
Here too. Only property owners should be able to vote for anyone or for any proposal that they will pay for, that which affects those who pay income tax should also include those taxpayers.
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Old 06-12-2014, 01:57 PM
 
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It's just this simple. When people attempt to limit voters it means they don't like the wify things are going for their party.

Reggie
And how the country is going with the welfare class growing much faster than the class who pays for them and the out of control spending of our hard earned incones.
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