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Let's go back to where the thread started, Giuliani.
YOU are the one who attempted to make it a left/right issue.
I've been given good advice so I won't feed the troll
Actually I did neither. All I did was compare Giuliani and Clinton as being alike, (which you now admit they are) and state that the left liked one, funny how they dont like the other. I never slammed the left for the way they feel, I stated a fact, or are you disagreeing that the left liked Clinton but not Giuliani?
It was individuals here on the forum that started talking about the right throwing stones and them coming back to haunt them. I'm trying to exactly figure out what you mean by coming back to haunt us, since we are not pro Giuliani for the same reason we are not pro Clinton.
How exactly has the stones come back to haunt the right?
Giuliani was very pro illegal but now that it's necessary he claims to be anti-illegal as do all candidates. All dems and 'some' repubs candidates want no fence, cards for illegals to work here, a little punishment, but what is 'important' is they want NO deportation.
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It was individuals here on the forum that started talking about the right throwing stones and them coming back to haunt them. I'm trying to exactly figure out what you mean by coming back to haunt us, since we are not pro Giuliani for the same reason we are not pro Clinton.
How exactly has the stones come back to haunt the right?
First you'd have to show me where I ever said 'haunt', you probably can't figure out what it meant because I didn't say it.
From the LA Times 12-05-07
Mike Huckabee, the ascendant Republican presidential candidate in Iowa, is enjoying a surge of support across the country -- and Rudolph W. Giuliani seems to be paying the biggest price, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.
Huckabee has pulled into second place, close behind Giuliani, in the national survey of Republican-leaning voters.
Gee, nobody's pro-Giuliani and he's leading a national poll, imagine how well he'd be doing if anybody actually supported him
Hillary Clinton is running for President, not Bill.
Quite true. However Hillary and Bill made it a mission to hunt down and persecute those in the military that fraternized with junior females...
The claim was that senior males were using their position of power to coerce sex from the women.
The President being the most powerful leader on earth tagging with Monica a virtual nobody????? Hypocrisy anyone???
Rudy on the other hand may have a strange or unusual libido but has not to the best of knowledge formed any witch hunts.
What I question about Hillary is one can forgive an indiscretion. But her hubby is a chronic indiscretion. Where is her pride? Or is it that Bill is good for votes? What ever the motivation she should at least be honest about it.
But expecting Hillary to be honest about anything is like expecting to see cows fly. Neither will ever happen. But then that's what you get from career politicians.
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Quite true. However Hillary and Bill made it a mission to hunt down and persecute those in the military that fraternized with junior females...
The claim was that senior males were using their position of power to coerce sex from the women.
The President being the most powerful leader on earth tagging with Monica a virtual nobody????? Hypocrisy anyone???
I think Clinton was a sleaze to do what he did but I've never seen any credible accusations from the Monica corner that any coercion was involved, by all accounts she was a happily willing participant. Perhaps you can cite documentation otherwise?
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Rudy on the other hand may have a strange or unusual libido but has not to the best of knowledge formed any witch hunts.
What I question about Hillary is one can forgive an indiscretion. But her hubby is a chronic indiscretion. Where is her pride? Or is it that Bill is good for votes? What ever the motivation she should at least be honest about it.
But expecting Hillary to be honest about anything is like expecting to see cows fly. Neither will ever happen. But then that's what you get from career politicians.
It's just amazing how quickly the concept of forgiveness is dismissed when both those who would forgive and those who would be forgiven are people one dislikes. I don't recall seeing that as a disqualifier for forgiveness in any Biblical writings. Maybe forgiveness just isn't a Christian concept?
And if there are motives to be discussed I'd like to lnow Rudy's motive for notifying a woman he'd pledged his loyalty to by announcing his desire for divorce at a public press conference. If he's truly such a spiteful, cheap shot artist it's something he should at least be honest about it.
First you'd have to show me where I ever said 'haunt', you probably can't figure out what it meant because I didn't say it.
From the LA Times 12-05-07
Mike Huckabee, the ascendant Republican presidential candidate in Iowa, is enjoying a surge of support across the country -- and Rudolph W. Giuliani seems to be paying the biggest price, a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll has found.
Huckabee has pulled into second place, close behind Giuliani, in the national survey of Republican-leaning voters.
Gee, nobody's pro-Giuliani and he's leading a national poll, imagine how well he'd be doing if anybody actually supported him
The highest % Giuliani has is 24%. Far from Clinton's 36%
I think Clinton was a sleaze to do what he did but I've never seen any credible accusations from the Monica corner that any coercion was involved, by all accounts she was a happily willing participant. Perhaps you can cite documentation otherwise?
Those in the military also were willing participants.
p.s this forum is not about Clinton, so lets move back onto topic, I just compared the two, but did not want to move the topic to Clinton.
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