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Old 02-01-2015, 05:01 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I don't know, exactly how "surging" can it be when you have 15% of the Iowa vote? That's not a comment about Walker but a comment about the Bloomberg headline. Bush, meanwhile is "struggling" with 8% of the Iowa vote. Rand Paul has 14% but he's apparently not verb/participle-worthy nor is Huckabee at 10%. Ben Carson has 9%.

The "I told you so" part of the Iowa poll shows Christie at 4% with a 54% unfavorability rating. Apparently, this only comes as a surprise to the news media along the NYC/DC corridor who live in a bubble and think Christie's problem is Bridgegate..

Although the Iowa poll was taken before Romney dropped out, poll participants were also asked to name their second choice candidate. Who do you think the Romney voters chose second? Mike Huckabee. Bush only went up one and no one changed places in the order.

Perry scored best (62%) on ideology being about right but it didn't help his poll numbers (3%).

Walker Surging in Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll as Bush Struggles - Bloomberg Politics

There is also stuff about the Democrats but the only significant thing I see there is the distance between Clinton (56%) and Warren (16%).

I've heard some news types say they think someone may come from out of nowhere on the Republican side but who?
This fool didn't even graduate from high school. Yet, you want us to elect him to our nation's highest elected office? That may work in your neck of the woods, but it shouldn't for a national office.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Do you really think Lindsey Graham will run? I don't see him getting any money except from the war industry and McCain couldn't get enough from them. I know I would not vote for him as he's too emotionally overwrought (temperment) and lacks any kind of management experience...although he was a colonel in the reseserves, still throughout his military service he never left NC and he's pretty much been a lawyer all of his life even in the military. He also seems to be working on controlling his emotions. Still, I don't see him making it to my primary. If I had to choose the Southern guy, it wouldn't be him.
Heck no. His fellow repub brothers would force him to come out of that grand closet of his and that would be the end of it.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:25 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Do you really think Lindsey Graham will run? I don't see him getting any money except from the war industry and McCain couldn't get enough from them. I know I would not vote for him as he's too emotionally overwrought (temperment) and lacks any kind of management experience...although he was a colonel in the reseserves, still throughout his military service he never left NC and he's pretty much been a lawyer all of his life even in the military. He also seems to be working on controlling his emotions. Still, I don't see him making it to my primary. If I had to choose the Southern guy, it wouldn't be him.
If i understand FEC filings correctly, then Graham has already spent more money than half the people we think are going to run, he has actually done polling and has put together a small team, that puts him ahead of everyone not named, Bush, Carson, Walker, and Christie.

im not saying he is going to win, but for all intensive purposes, he is already running. the Primary for South Carolina is a little farther back in 2016, but im guessing it will end up moving closer and give him a chance to stay in.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The only thing Iowa is proving is it is an outlier, whose choice does not reflect the eventual nominee any longer.
This is only true with the Iowa Republicans, not their Democrats, at least so far.

But if Iowan conservatives want to keep their position as their party's bellwether, their caucus and primary outcomes are going to have to become more realistic, or they will simply be ignored. if not in 2016, then in 2020. And what's the use of being the first if nobody cares? The only political value Iowa has is as an early indicator of in-party trends. if they can't pick the right guy time after time, why bother with them at all?

It's hell to throw a big party and have no one show up to it.
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Old 02-01-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This fool didn't even graduate from high school. Yet, you want us to elect him to our nation's highest elected office? That may work in your neck of the woods, but it shouldn't for a national office.

Harry Truman did not have a college degree yet is now ranked 5 among US presidents by historians. Both right and left now concede that he was an effective prez.

List of presidential rankings - politics - White House | NBC News

Woodrow Wilson had a PhD and was an elite academic (president of Princeton U) but was a disaster as president. He started the income tax, started the war on drugs (Harrison act of 1914) and started the notion of US as world police with WWI. He also started a war on free speech by tossing people in jail for anti-war pamphlets (Schenk case) and created the modern federal police state. Before Wilson there was no FBI, and Congress was chary of armed federal cops. The early FBI were forbidden from carrying guns, but Wilson's creation inevitably evolved into the storm troopers that we have today.
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I've heard some news types say they think someone may come from out of nowhere on the Republican side but who?


Notice, they are not talking about Ted Cruz.....
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Harry Truman did not have a college degree yet is now ranked 5 among US presidents by historians. Both right and left now concede that he was an effective prez.

List of presidential rankings - politics - White House | NBC News

Woodrow Wilson had a PhD and was an elite academic (president of Princeton U) but was a disaster as president. He started the income tax, started the war on drugs (Harrison act of 1914) and started the notion of US as world police with WWI. He also started a war on free speech by tossing people in jail for anti-war pamphlets (Schenk case) and created the modern federal police state. Before Wilson there was no FBI, and Congress was chary of armed federal cops. The early FBI were forbidden from carrying guns, but Wilson's creation inevitably evolved into the storm troopers that we have today.
Not to mention, bringing segregation to America right at the moment we were starting to work things out ourselves.
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Harry Truman did not have a college degree yet is now ranked 5 among US presidents by historians. Both right and left now concede that he was an effective prez.

List of presidential rankings - politics - White House | NBC News

Woodrow Wilson had a PhD and was an elite academic (president of Princeton U) but was a disaster as president. He started the income tax, started the war on drugs (Harrison act of 1914) and started the notion of US as world police with WWI. He also started a war on free speech by tossing people in jail for anti-war pamphlets (Schenk case) and created the modern federal police state. Before Wilson there was no FBI, and Congress was chary of armed federal cops. The early FBI were forbidden from carrying guns, but Wilson's creation inevitably evolved into the storm troopers that we have today.
True dat. I've never heard that Truman was among the "best". In fact, I've heard that he was unpopular at the end of his elected term. Wilson was also easily the most racist POTUS we've ever had. He segregated all of the Washington DC offices and the military, passed the Harrison Act because he thought that black men on drugs would rape white women AND screened the racist "birth of a Nation" at the White House despite protests. League of Nation, Federal Income Tax, there's a special place in Hell for that fool.
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Old 02-01-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Walker dropped out of college, did not fulfill his campaign promise to add 250,000 jobs to WI, is running a very large budget deficit, has not given failing infrastructure priority, and is known for causing divisiveness within the state.


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Old 02-01-2015, 11:30 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Walker dropped out of college, did not fulfill his campaign promise to add 250,000 jobs to WI, is running a very large budget deficit, has not given failing infrastructure priority, and is known for causing divisiveness within the state.
And he's destroyed every effort the left has come up with to hurt him or the state of WI, which is doing much better under Scott Walker. He's lowered the deficit and he's doing exactly what he said he would, that's why the leftist union trash of WI hates him.
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