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Old 03-06-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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OK if marriage isn't a right but a priviledge is it right that you discriminate by sexual orientation? Remember we are all equals under the law.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Good luck.


Luck has nothing to do with it.
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:45 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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OK if marriage isn't a right but a priviledge is it right that you discriminate by sexual orientation? Remember we are all equals under the law.

Who says you cannot be gay?

Your telling me, what I cannot do. I'm certainly not telling you, that you cannot be gay.

Everyones actions have consequences. Some good some bad. Not everyone is going to get on the bandwagon and agree with you no matter how many people you gather in the lynch mob.
Individual personal freedom rules over the 1% and the 32%
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Old 03-06-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Luck has nothing to do with it.
I hope you're right.
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Old 03-06-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Who says you cannot be gay?

Your telling me, what I cannot do. I'm certainly not telling you, that you cannot be gay.

Everyones actions have consequences. Some good some bad. Not everyone is going to get on the bandwagon and agree with you no matter how many people you gather in the lynch mob.
Individual personal freedom rules over the 1% and the 32%
You are saying you are against gays being able to marry, that is wrong to deny gays from being able to marry.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You are saying you are against gays being able to marry, that is wrong to deny gays from being able to marry.

Pass a Constitutional Amendment, so the federal government can marry you
Until then, go pound sand.... and your pud.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Who says you cannot be gay?

Your telling me, what I cannot do. I'm certainly not telling you, that you cannot be gay.

Everyones actions have consequences. Some good some bad. Not everyone is going to get on the bandwagon and agree with you no matter how many people you gather in the lynch mob.
Individual personal freedom rules over the 1% and the 32%
Here's the thing, you and others (including my father) think that we are pushing a gay agenda and saying you can't discriminate against us for expressing our first amendment rights and our state's tenth amendment right. OK, but what about the gay's fourteenth amendment rights that grants them along with different races and different sexes right to equal protection? Does that not hold any weight that is as equal or greater thann any law?

No one is censoring you (which on websites based on terms and services you may lose some right to total free speech anyway) like you think. The problem is it is like how anti-civil right people were looked at in the 1960's, they were wrong. You have the right to free speech but you may get condemned for what you say. I have that too, the man on my left has that too, as does the woman on my right. If I make a comment on conservatives or the Tea Party, you condemn me for that, so why is it wrong when the shoe is on the other foot?

Also how can someone who is for individual personal freedom can be against another individual's personal freedom?
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Pass a Constitutional Amendment, so the federal government can marry you
Until then, go pound sand.... and your pud.
We might not need it, there's already an amendment for that. Read the 14th Amendment again. EVERYONE has equal protection under the law. By this, gays can marry and have the same exact rights as a traditional marriage. Anything else is just separate-but-equal all over again.
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Old 03-06-2015, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Pass a Constitutional Amendment, so the federal government can marry you
Until then, go pound sand.... and your pud.
Actually we are close to having equal rights for gay couples so that they too can marry in the US and have their marriage recognized in every state. Though one doesn't need to marry the federal government to make that happen. I know my wife and I are only married to each other, not the federal government.
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Old 03-06-2015, 01:13 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Here's the thing, you and others (including my father) think that we are pushing a gay agenda and saying you can't discriminate against us for expressing our first amendment rights and our state's tenth amendment right. OK, but what about the gay's fourteenth amendment rights that grants them along with different races and different sexes right to equal protection? Does that not hold any weight that is as equal or greater thann any law?

No one is censoring you (which on websites based on terms and services you may lose some right to total free speech anyway) like you think. The problem is it is like how anti-civil right people were looked at in the 1960's, they were wrong. You have the right to free speech but you may get condemned for what you say. I have that too, the man on my left has that too, as does the woman on my right. If I make a comment on conservatives or the Tea Party, you condemn me for that, so why is it wrong when the shoe is on the other foot?

Also how can someone who is for individual personal freedom can be against another individual's personal freedom?

The 14th amendment didn't give women the right to vote, it certainly doesn't give you any right to marry.
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