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Originally Posted by banjomike
The President of the United States is unlike any other job, period.
Sure, Governors have been elected, but more Senators than Governors have become President. If numbers count, then a Senate seat must be better training than a Governor's office.
President Obama was a State Senator for 11 years before seeking a Congressional Senate seat, and he served as a Senator longer than some others did who became the President.
The fact is the people decide who's ready for the job, period, end of story. Most obviously, experience alone has never been the voter's prime qualification.
If experience was the most important qualification, then we should have seen President Rockefeller, President Thurmond, President Calhoun, or any of a host of others who failed to win election. Any of those 3 had vastly more experience in state and federal politics than most of our Presidents have had.
LOL, Dick Cheney is by definition the most qualified man in America to be President , next would be Leon Panetta.
The best training for a modern president is being a successful governor. Hence why most successful modern presidents have had such experience on their resumes.
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If that is true, then Mark Dayton or John Hickenlooper would be good candidates. I would vote for either.
What interests me the most is that in polls, most Democrats support a conservative like Clinton for president. David Brooks says that most Americans are Centre-Right or Right on the political scale. I don't know where he gets his data, but if true, and it seems to be given the relentless march of right-wing presidents we have had since Jimmy Carter, we will proceed as a country on this plutocratic enshrinement and it doesn't leave a democratic socialist like me much optimism or choices as a voter. Sanders is great and I can certainly vote for him but I can't see the American electorate voting for him en masse.
It would be great to have a presidential race to be excited about.
Hillary -- forget it. Not even a chance. I don't think she'll run, and if she does, she'll lose, as will any other woman. (This a good hunch; it's not a sexist thing. I'm a woman.)
Jim Webb is good, but he needs a hefty dose of brilliance; he's not an exciting speaker, and he'd have to loosen up and move out of monotone. He needs more fire to match that red hair, and he can pull on his family's deep roots in this country to pepper up his talking points.
Phil Bredesen is just as smart as Webb, if not more, because I think he really sees and understands details, but I'd worry about the perception of his age / health. He's very likable, and his "perceived state of health" is the only thing that bothers me. Still, I can see him easily winning debates (if he got that far or even wanted to run).
Joe Manchin -- I like that name. President Manchin. He's RC, could play up his Italian/Czech heritage, bring energy issues to the forefront with the WV coal industry (largely ignored and/or forgotten), and he has a solid, even personality, but behind the scenes, I think he can get very bullheaded and even slug/throw things around -- he has a temper that Jim Webb could borrow! He's also a bit of a flat speaker and isn't as gracious and naturally well-spoken as Webb or Bredesen. But he looks much younger than he is, and I feel like he could pull the NE vote pretty strongly.
I kind of had my hopes on Ben Carson, but his stance on gays won't change; he's not one to back-pedal, and though that's a definite plus (in that he won't flip-flop on his beliefs), he could lose a lot of votes with that. But I think he's still very much in the game and is the most personable among these people. I'd like to see all of them line up and debate.
That is a thoughtful post.
I would like to see ben carson run 3rd party if he doesnt get the nod from repubs. I don't see him losing any votes. Gays care about the economy just as much as straights, i would imagine, so why would he lose votes there? I bet they care about mandatory health insurance and massive illegal immigration too.
If i was carson i wouldnt even do the debates- they love their gotcha opportunities in the media, even fake ones. I would just travel the country until the next election and spread my message, and hit a lot of campuses on the way.
Hillary clobbered obama in the debates, and where did that get her exactly?
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Harry Reid. Hilary desperately needs a primary opponent to ask the tough questions before the GOP blows her away. Pat Quinn? He raised taxes then got defeated. But he's better than no one.
Is "The Rent Is Too D*mn High" guy available? He actually has a legitimate issue compared to the imaginary War On Women.
I'd say "Nancy Pelosi" but the Dems already have too many rich old white ladies they're considering. How about some Hollywood actor that played the President on TV or in the movies...and it can't be Morgan Freeman because when the world ends with Iran's nukes, we're going to need him to play God.
But seriously, any successful Democrat governors or former governors out there?
The Press might tell you O'Malley was successful, but most Marylanders would tell you otherwise.
Harry Reid. Hilary desperately needs a primary opponent to ask the tough questions before the GOP blows her away. Pat Quinn? He raised taxes then got defeated. But he's better than no one.
No Pat Quinn isn't even on par with nothing, he is the most useless blowhard out there. I hope we never hear from him again, ever !
I'd like to see Harry Truman on the Dem ticket, the one and only honest democrat to ever hold office.
It would be great to have a presidential race to be excited about.
I would too, but I think that's going to be the main problem. On both sides, there's a lack of overall spark. It may feel like a race with no heartbeat. There's a drought because no one is interesting so far.
People are very angry, disappointed, and apathetic. The US has never been so weak (at least in my lifetime), and I don't feel like we have a collective drum roll in us this time around.
Harry Reid would be a good choice, but I think he's always been too smart to run for president. Plus, he just took a bad fall in January and he'll be 76 this year.
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