Ted Cruz's campaign for President will be an utter trainwreck (Harry Reid, Republican)
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Ted's religious views may win him the evangelical vote in some of these early primary states come next year, but beyond that when he tries to appeal to the moderate middle, he will sink and sink fast when he finds that his Christian beliefs and how they affect his political views will be his undoing. This is the very same thing that affects Mike Huckabee and also why he will never be President. If you are perceived as one who is fundamentalist, I don't think you have any chance of being President, and in my opinion, thankfully so.
Oh man! Too bad, because I was looking forward to living under our 2nd Canadian president
PS has Cruz submitted his long form birth certificate yet?
The problem though is that Ted will not be able to separate himself FROM his religious views in the minds of some voters. They will question whether or not his religious convictions will spill over into his views on issues and this connection alone will doom him with some in the moderate middle. He won't be able to distance himself on gay marriage or any other issue where personal religious beliefs intersect with political issues. He and his conservative religious oriented GOP brethren don't stand a chance in my opinion of going past next May.
Cruz' father is an fundamental evangelist. I'm positive that Ted deeply believes his religious views and does not want to separate them in any way from the rest of his secular beliefs.
He may not be as forthright as Huckabee in expressing is religion, but if Huck runs again, he will draw off some of Cruz' supporters.
Ted is going to need a minimum of $9 million dollars to go all the way through the primaries. 2016 is going to be an election where big money is going to be dumped up front and early, and the big contributors are more wary this time, after the 2012 debacle. Ted may be getting a lot of attention right now, but it's sure that Jeb Bush is still working hard lining up contributors and locking them in. So is Rand Paul.
Cruz is going to have a tough time pulling in the big bucks. His government shutdown in 2013 cost a lot of rich conservatives a lot of money, and they won't easily forgive him for that little stunt.
60 days from now, we will all have a much clearer picture of who is in or out.
The media is doing its best to take TC's words out of context and create a negative perception.
You mean like "you didn't build that," and "what difference does it make"? You mean take things out of context like that?
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Which is more or less what happened with Romney. He had to run so far to the right during the primaries that he couldn't recover during the general election. Voters may self describe themselves as Conservative, but they're actually pretty liberal on most issues as poll after poll shows.
This is why every Democrat/Liberal/Progressive should be ecstatic that Cruz is in the race. He is bombastic and has a huge ego that will compel him to suck up as much attention and energy as he possibly can, causing all the other candidates to scramble to get further to the right of him just to stay in the primary race. And that will again spell doom for whichever Republican wins the nomination. Cruz is the left's best campaign weapon.
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sorry but the left specifically targeted her. they went above and beyond what they did in the past with candidates, even dan quayle did get ripped like palin did.
Palin was a joke, and ridicule naturally follows joke candidates. And the left was spot on in its ridicule of her, as the years following her VP run proved what we had been pointing out--that she is a vapid, empty head spouting incomprehensible word salad. What has she accomplished in the last seven years aside from quitting in the middle of her governorship and doing a few awful reality shows? Nope, we had her pegged as an idiot from the start, we we were right.
Cruz' father is an fundamental evangelist. I'm positive that Ted deeply believes his religious views and does not want to separate them in any way from the rest of his secular beliefs.
He may not be as forthright as Huckabee in expressing is religion, but if Huck runs again, he will draw off some of Cruz' supporters.
Ted is going to need a minimum of $9 million dollars to go all the way through the primaries. 2016 is going to be an election where big money is going to be dumped up front and early, and the big contributors are more wary this time, after the 2012 debacle. Ted may be getting a lot of attention right now, but it's sure that Jeb Bush is still working hard lining up contributors and locking them in. So is Rand Paul.
Cruz is going to have a tough time pulling in the big bucks. His government shutdown in 2013 cost a lot of rich conservatives a lot of money, and they won't easily forgive him for that little stunt.
60 days from now, we will all have a much clearer picture of who is in or out.
Regarding the bolded, that's a very good point. You don't hear the name "Karl Rove" anymore in Republican conservative circles. After 2012 he is persona non grata.
Ted's religious views may win him the evangelical vote in some of these early primary states come next year, but beyond that when he tries to appeal to the moderate middle, he will sink and sink fast when he finds that his Christian beliefs and how they affect his political views will be his undoing. This is the very same thing that affects Mike Huckabee and also why he will never be President. If you are perceived as one who is fundamentalist, I don't think you have any chance of being President, and in my opinion, thankfully so.
Huckabee and Cruz are in completely different camps, and GOP primary dynamics for them will be completely different. Huckabee is more of a "big government conservative" a la W Bush. Rick Santorum is much in that mold too. Huckabee has long argued that the libertarian strain in the GOP is a bad thing. Mike Huckabee
IMO both Huck and Santorum stumbled in the GOP primaries because of their big-gov't, anti-libertarian views. This will not apply to Cruz. The main problem for Cruz will be persuading GOP primary voters that he is more Reagan than Goldwater. In other words that he is electable. Only time will tell whether he can do that.
We can tell which candidates are feared by who has threads started about them by liberal posters. We've had several threads from liberal posters on Cruz and Scott Walker. I can't remember the last thread started by a liberal poster on Mike Huckabee.
Ted's religious views may win him the evangelical vote in some of these early primary states come next year, but beyond that when he tries to appeal to the moderate middle, he will sink and sink fast when he finds that his Christian beliefs and how they affect his political views will be his undoing. This is the very same thing that affects Mike Huckabee and also why he will never be President. If you are perceived as one who is fundamentalist, I don't think you have any chance of being President, and in my opinion, thankfully so.
His "religious views" are Christian. So, are you saying you would never vote for any Christian?
Do you think that the "moderate middle" (as you put it) are not Christian?
How do his Christian beliefs affect his political views? How are they different than, for example, the beliefs of our Founders? If one of our Founders could run today (hypothetically, of course), are you saying you would not vote for him?
So, we can assume you would not vote for anyone of the Christian Faith.
Ted's religious views may win him the evangelical vote in some of these early primary states come next year, but beyond that when he tries to appeal to the moderate middle, he will sink and sink fast when he finds that his Christian beliefs and how they affect his political views will be his undoing. This is the very same thing that affects Mike Huckabee and also why he will never be President. If you are perceived as one who is fundamentalist, I don't think you have any chance of being President, and in my opinion, thankfully so.
much of what you say may be true, but Huckabee lost ground more due to being an unknown, going up against a prisoner of war, popular candidate. If religion played a big part in Mike's downward spin, how do you explain all the others that were running tin 2008? McCain was pretty much the choice before the primaries ever started.
As for Cruz, yes, he is a little too far to the right on social issues, and unlike Huckabee, he doesn't really have much personality. That won't help him. I never have thought he would do well, especially when he has only been a senator for a couple of years.
Now, as for your comment about no chance to be Pres and thankfully so, why do so many people choose to vote for or against candidats based more on their religion or lack of same? I don't understand that. The President isn't going to change laws based on religion. They may think they can, but they pretty much can not. That is the wonder of having 3 branches of the government.
I for one, can't wait to see some of the things he will say. He will keep Bill Maher alone full of jokes for the better part of 14 months.
So, Christians are fodder for jokes, in your opinion? Isn't that a bigoted thing to say? Do you consider yourself a bigot?
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