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Old 04-13-2015, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Is anyone else disappointed in the warmed over group of far left/far right leftovers running so far?

We need new ideas, new leaders in this country.
You'd be hard pressed to call Hillary anything other than a moderate.

Paul and Cruz on the other hand are fringe loons. Or what some around here would consider "normal."
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Old 04-13-2015, 01:05 AM
 
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I'm a moderate. I think Hillary is a moderate too though the left wants to push her into the corner.
If you are a true moderate, you would never think Hillary is one as well. She is much more left wing than the media portrays, and many have been suckered into believing.
She will of course morph into anything she thinks will help her get the (D) nomination, and then morph once again to try and beat whoever the (R) is.

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Old 04-13-2015, 06:57 AM
 
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This is so true.
Only in the mind of someone on the extreme, extreme left.
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Old 04-13-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I'm a moderate. I think Hillary is a moderate too though the left wants to push her into the corner.
I completely agree with this. And this moderate will likely be voting for her if the Republicans can't come up with anyone better than this group of old pharts including the young old pharts.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Austin
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A presidential candidate these days needs name recognition to get votes, due to a stupid electorate, and a 2.5 Billion dollar campaign chest solicited from those s/he will owe favors/influence to once in office, to run for the highest office, sadly.

These bare bones requirements make the candidates we are offered pretty limited.
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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People still think Hilary is "far left" lol?

She's a war hawk and in bed with Wall Street. Stop thinking democrat=Liberal, it's like when people think republican=Conservative
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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A presidential candidate these days needs name recognition to get votes, due to a stupid electorate, and a 2.5 Billion dollar campaign chest solicited from those s/he will owe favors/influence to once in office, to run for the highest office, sadly.

These bare bones requirements make the candidates we are offered pretty limited.

Well said, I dread it is going to be another election about ideology while the real problems are not addressed.
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Old 04-13-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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Here and always been here.

I consider Hillary, Jeb and Rand all centralists. They are all on the left on some issues and right on others.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Is anyone else disappointed in the warmed over group of far left/far right leftovers running so far?

We need new ideas, new leaders in this country.
Very odd post. Far right leftovers? This is probably the youngest group so far with the least amount of time collectively inside the beltway. Compared too the last 8 years they have very new ideas. Now on the left you are absolutely correct you cant get much more warmed/over left over than HRC.
As far as moderates... they are the very definition of what you just described. Warmed over status quo.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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There are plenty of us around, but I think the partisans tend to dominate these boards and do the most posting. Moderates are getting on with their lives.
Maybe a new Moderate Party needs to be created to take those folks in? If the ideology of moderation is so popular, it should be quite the success in assembling a large majority?
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