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Old 04-13-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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That would require the GOP to change their stance on Latinos over night, and act like they support the issues of the Latinos. I don't see Rubio or Rafael Cruz doing that, especially seeing they need to play to the far right just to win a primary.
Actually Rubio does have a plan for dealing with the undocumented population in a favorable way. Not sure where Cruz stands. But anyone that tells you Hispanic voters do not care about that issue are FOS. All one has to do is look at the spike in Obama's approval ratings among Hispanic voters after his executive amnesty.

 
Old 04-13-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Yeah it won't happen. Obama could have lost Ohio, Florida and a few other small states and he STILL would have won.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually Rubio does have a plan for dealing with the undocumented population in a favorable way. Not sure where Cruz stands. But anyone that tells you Hispanic voters do not care about that issue are FOS. All one has to do is look at the spike in Obama's approval ratings among Hispanic voters after his executive amnesty.
And how does Rubio plan on convincing the far right wingers to vote for him in the primary? The problem is, they need to win the primary first and many of those people want anyone who looks illegal to be deported.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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And how does Rubio plan on convincing the far right wingers to vote for him in the primary? The problem is, they need to win the primary first and many of those people want anyone who looks illegal to be deported.
Well that is true, and Bush would have the same problem. I was only addressing your point about Hispanic voters.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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jazzy jeff, The base will cost the GOP Latinos and single women, and with it the GOP base will elect Hillary Rodham Clinton, right after their rigid 18th century mindset gave Obama 2 terms.

Time for the GOP to return to party leaders choosing the ticket.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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Anyone who "looks" like an illegal? Just what does an illegal look like? Besides, shouldn't they all be deported regardless of what they look like? Or do our immigration laws mean nothing? I would think that a law abiding American would want to back a politician who respects our immigration laws not those who do not. Am I missing something here?

Just what stance on "Latinos" are the GOP taking? Most GOPers don't have a problem with Latinos that are here legally and respect our laws. I'm a little confused here.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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Actually Rubio does have a plan for dealing with the undocumented population in a favorable way. Not sure where Cruz stands. But anyone that tells you Hispanic voters do not care about that issue are FOS. All one has to do is look at the spike in Obama's approval ratings among Hispanic voters after his executive amnesty.
No such thing as an "undocumented". They are illegal aliens. Rubio's so-called favorable way of dealing with them is to reward them for breaking our immigration laws and allowing them to remain to continue to hold on to jobs that should be for Americans and that is only the tip of the iceberg why that is the wrong way of dealing with them and will only make matters worse for our own citizens.

You're right the majority of Hispanics want amnesty for their illegal amigos and think they should be above our immigration laws and since Obama obliged them he has been rewarded with their votes. It's a sick country when certain ethnic groups are pandered to by our politicians by thumbing their noses at our laws for them.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: NJ
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People vote based on what matters to them. Rich want low tax rates, mucho tax breaks, Latinos want Immigration Reform with a pathway to citizenship. In both cases, pols pander for their votes. Glad to know they do listen!
 
Old 04-13-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Yeah it won't happen. Obama could have lost Ohio, Florida and a few other small states and he STILL would have won.


Hillary is no Obama......you make it sound people will be excited to vote for Hillary like they did Obama in 2008. I don't see that at all.


Obama won 26 states compare to Romney 24 states.....Its been a looooong time since the Democrats won the WH in a 40 plus state landslide like Reagan in 1980 and 1984 and Bush Sr. in 1988.


if Hillary wins is going to be close......she is not a better speaker, campaigner or politician like Obama.......I don't see the young vote voting for her like they did Obama in big numbers.
 
Old 04-13-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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People vote based on what matters to them. Rich want low tax rates, mucho tax breaks, Latinos want Immigration Reform with a pathway to citizenship. In both cases, pols pander for their votes. Glad to know they do listen!

everybody that works and produces want low tax rates.......I never heard anybody that works regardless of social class that they love to work to pay high taxes so they can bring less home.....they want to take as much money they produce home as possible.


Don't speak for all latinos.....latinos that are legal here don't want amnesty because illegal immigration hurts them the most in jobs and lower wages.
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