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Old 04-19-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
"Tea" stands for Taxed Enough Already.

That is the basic message of that party. I have been to the website and find nothing "nutty" about it.
That was the Original message, it has expanded far from that and that is why the TP is now mainly made up of far rightwing nut jobs.

 
Old 04-20-2015, 04:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
Better find an electable candidate before considering counting those chickens, so far Hillary beats every declared candidate.
Care to explain? On what basis, or standard of measure, does Hillary beat any of the declared candidates, or potential Republican candidates? She has no record of accomplishment, her reputation consists of corruption and lying, contradictions, and general incompetency.

The latest scandal to plague Hillary is her use of personal email for State Department business. This is a very egregious violation of law, which involves possible compromise of sensitive information. She should have known better. It is yet unclear why she did this, but one can argue that it was calculated to avoid FOIA disclosure of her communications.

She is directly responsible for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi because of her mishandling of security, the repeated refusal of requests for additional personnel, and failure to send help when under attack. It was her duty to see that the Benghazi compound was adequately protected. She was derelict in that duty.

Her record of avoidance of answering questions, providing requested information, etc. is troubling. She has not been forthcoming, and in fact has been totally uncooperative.

From her windfall in the Cattle Futures trading scandal ("cattlegate"), "filegate", "Whitewater" to the present email scandal, Hillary's record is one of duplicity and political acrobatics to avoid prosecution for criminal behavior.

Is this what puts her ahead of the rest? Is this what makes her "electable"?
 
Old 04-20-2015, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Care to explain? On what basis, or standard of measure, does Hillary beat any of the declared candidates, or potential Republican candidates? She has no record of accomplishment, her reputation consists of corruption and lying, contradictions, and general incompetency.

The latest scandal to plague Hillary is her use of personal email for State Department business. This is a very egregious violation of law, which involves possible compromise of sensitive information. She should have known better. It is yet unclear why she did this, but one can argue that it was calculated to avoid FOIA disclosure of her communications.

She is directly responsible for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi because of her mishandling of security, the repeated refusal of requests for additional personnel, and failure to send help when under attack. It was her duty to see that the Benghazi compound was adequately protected. She was derelict in that duty.

Her record of avoidance of answering questions, providing requested information, etc. is troubling. She has not been forthcoming, and in fact has been totally uncooperative.

From her windfall in the Cattle Futures trading scandal ("cattlegate"), "filegate", "Whitewater" to the present email scandal, Hillary's record is one of duplicity and political acrobatics to avoid prosecution for criminal behavior.

Is this what puts her ahead of the rest? Is this what makes her "electable"?
What so many are forgetting about these polls that have her so far ahead, we are talking several possible R candidates and only 1 dem. When the field gets down to just a few the polls will be a little more accurate, if polls are ever accurate. Right now she is almost in a dead heat with Bush, Rubio and Rand Paul.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 06:12 AM
 
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Realistically, there ain't no po' folk leading the Democratic Party either.
This is very true, which leads us to the root of our Country's election process problem.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 07:40 AM
 
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Originally Posted by nononsenseguy View Post
Care to explain? On what basis, or standard of measure, does Hillary beat any of the declared candidates, or potential Republican candidates? She has no record of accomplishment, her reputation consists of corruption and lying, contradictions, and general incompetency.

The latest scandal to plague Hillary is her use of personal email for State Department business. This is a very egregious violation of law, which involves possible compromise of sensitive information. She should have known better. It is yet unclear why she did this, but one can argue that it was calculated to avoid FOIA disclosure of her communications.

She is directly responsible for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi because of her mishandling of security, the repeated refusal of requests for additional personnel, and failure to send help when under attack. It was her duty to see that the Benghazi compound was adequately protected. She was derelict in that duty.

Her record of avoidance of answering questions, providing requested information, etc. is troubling. She has not been forthcoming, and in fact has been totally uncooperative.

From her windfall in the Cattle Futures trading scandal ("cattlegate"), "filegate", "Whitewater" to the present email scandal, Hillary's record is one of duplicity and political acrobatics to avoid prosecution for criminal behavior.

Is this what puts her ahead of the rest? Is this what makes her "electable"?
An the list of accomplishments from Rubio, Paul and Cruz are what? Rubio is not even strongly supported in his own home state. Paul is Not his father and does not even have the same support among Libertarians and a flip-flop history and little National support. Cruz, his main accomplishment is shutting down the government while reading Green Eggs and Ham, he rubs Libs, Moderates and even many Repubs the wrong way and the odds of him getting the Nomination, no less win the Whitehouse, are slim to none.

Oh good grief her using personal email is not an egregious violation of the law and not uncommon, no matter how much you want to make a huge deal out of the voters simply do not care about it.

Pure right-wing BS, if there was any proof of any of those wild claims the Repubs would be all over it, guess what happened, posturing on the behalf of those want to believe such nonsense and nothing else and nothing else will happen.

Troubling to whom, the right-wingers that have done nothing but attack her for 20 Years, and after all that time all the so-called "investigations" what came of it, Nothing. Good grief, if something does not work one does not keep repeating it in hopes of a different outcome, it is the definition of insanity. The vast majority of Americans see the attacks for what they are and no longer listen to the BS.

What puts her way ahead of the current batch of wannabes is she is well known, has the support of the DNC and she is not considered to be anywhere near as inept or extreme as any of them. Many would not support her if a good GOP candidate is the option but put forward a Cruz type and they will rush to the polls to vote for her, many still care what happens to the Nation. That is why I said the GOP must find a moderate candidate that is well known and well liked and they will stand a good chance against her, but hey don't believe me, believe your own propaganda and repeat the mistakes of the past and expect a different result this time, just do not whine that the Dems somehow stole the election when after all it will be you that gave away the election.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 07:51 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Who is to say that the Democrats wouldn't have caved on the issue, and prevented a government shutdown?


Don't you think that they are capable of acting for the good of the country?
Capable is a far cry from willing.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 08:32 AM
 
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I think the GOP candidates still ranting and raving against gay marriage are out of touch.
The irony considering the presumed Democratic nominee held the same position just 6 short years ago.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas View Post
An the list of accomplishments from Rubio, Paul and Cruz are what? Rubio is not even strongly supported in his own home state. Paul is Not his father and does not even have the same support among Libertarians and a flip-flop history and little National support. Cruz, his main accomplishment is shutting down the government while reading Green Eggs and Ham, he rubs Libs, Moderates and even many Repubs the wrong way and the odds of him getting the Nomination, no less win the Whitehouse, are slim to none.

Oh good grief her using personal email is not an egregious violation of the law and not uncommon, no matter how much you want to make a huge deal out of the voters simply do not care about it.

Pure right-wing BS, if there was any proof of any of those wild claims the Repubs would be all over it, guess what happened, posturing on the behalf of those want to believe such nonsense and nothing else and nothing else will happen.

Troubling to whom, the right-wingers that have done nothing but attack her for 20 Years, and after all that time all the so-called "investigations" what came of it, Nothing. Good grief, if something does not work one does not keep repeating it in hopes of a different outcome, it is the definition of insanity. The vast majority of Americans see the attacks for what they are and no longer listen to the BS.

What puts her way ahead of the current batch of wannabes is she is well known, has the support of the DNC and she is not considered to be anywhere near as inept or extreme as any of them. Many would not support her if a good GOP candidate is the option but put forward a Cruz type and they will rush to the polls to vote for her, many still care what happens to the Nation. That is why I said the GOP must find a moderate candidate that is well known and well liked and they will stand a good chance against her, but hey don't believe me, believe your own propaganda and repeat the mistakes of the past and expect a different result this time, just do not whine that the Dems somehow stole the election when after all it will be you that gave away the election.
Well known? So are Rubio, Cruz, Paul, and Walker. Unfortunately, she is well known for corruption, deception and lies. And, sorry, but using her personal email for State Department business is a serious violation. Perhaps you don't care about it. I do, and so do millions of Americans, which recent polling has shown are more concerned about national security than any other issue.

Of course she has the support of the DNC! Duh. She is an extreme Left-winger. There is nothing extreme about the Republican candidates. Though the Left want to paint them as such, there ideas are anything but "extreme" (that's why they are called "conservatives").

What is a "Cruz type?"

Many of us do care what happens to the nation. That's why we should reject Hillary, and turn this ship around. Her ideology is the same as that of Barack Obama, and is wrong for the country and the American people. As government expands, Liberty contracts. We need more Liberty, not less.

What "mistakes of the past" do you refer to? Conservatism has never been a mistake. It is socialism that is the mistake of the past, and that is what Barack Obama has given us more of, and Hillary plans to continue. What we need is "Reaganism," which resulted in 96 straight months of economic expansion, and that's a fact, Jack.

As for Ted Cruz and "shutting down government" that is Left-wing rhetoric only, and everyone knows it.

Cruz is a successful attorney, has argued nine times before the Supreme Court, and has held high offices before being elected Senator from Texas. He is well qualified to be President, far more so than Hillary.

You haven't supplied one good reason why Hillary is qualified to be President.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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What so many are forgetting about these polls that have her so far ahead, we are talking several possible R candidates and only 1 dem. When the field gets down to just a few the polls will be a little more accurate, if polls are ever accurate. Right now she is almost in a dead heat with Bush, Rubio and Rand Paul.
True.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 08:48 AM
 
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Well known? So are Rubio, Cruz, Paul, and Walker. Unfortunately, she is well known for corruption, deception and lies. And, sorry, but using her personal email for State Department business is a serious violation. Perhaps you don't care about it. I do, and so do millions of Americans, which recent polling has shown are more concerned about national security than any other issue.

Of course she has the support of the DNC! Duh. She is an extreme Left-winger. There is nothing extreme about the Republican candidates. Though the Left want to paint them as such, there ideas are anything but "extreme" (that's why they are called "conservatives").

What is a "Cruz type?"

Many of us do care what happens to the nation. That's why we should reject Hillary, and turn this ship around. Her ideology is the same as that of Barack Obama, and is wrong for the country and the American people. As government expands, Liberty contracts. We need more Liberty, not less.

What "mistakes of the past" do you refer to? Conservatism has never been a mistake. It is socialism that is the mistake of the past, and that is what Barack Obama has given us more of, and Hillary plans to continue. What we need is "Reaganism," which resulted in 96 straight months of economic expansion, and that's a fact, Jack.

As for Ted Cruz and "shutting down government" that is Left-wing rhetoric only, and everyone knows it.

Cruz is a successful attorney, has argued nine times before the Supreme Court, and has held high offices before being elected Senator from Texas. He is well qualified to be President, far more so than Hillary.

You haven't supplied one good reason why Hillary is qualified to be President.
LOL, your reply is exactly what I expected, more of the same right-wing rhetoric and totally ignoring the facts. Please feel free to select Cruz and your candidate, the DNC will absolutely Love it ad you can get used to the idea of saying Madame President Hillary Clinton. I will hope the GOP has more sense and fields a quality candidate.
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