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Old 04-23-2015, 09:05 AM
 
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Looking at the Electorla map the Swing states will be
NM, NV, CO, OH, NH, VA, FL, IA
Republicans must win OH, VA, FL and one or two others
I think Rand Paul's libertarian tendencies would play well in the Western swing states and NH. That's 22 electoral votes (NH, NV, NM, CO) and the downside of less motivated social conservatives would mostly affect already deep red states and not be a threat to electoral votes.
Overall of course the most important part is winning the popular vote because then the other pieces tend to fall into place, but I think Rand Paul would get to 270 more effeciently (smaller pop vote margin) than the other Candidates.
http://www.270towin.com/
a map with NM, CO, OH FL and OH would lead to a Republican Victory without VA, NH, and NV, the Western Swing State are key.

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Old 04-23-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Don't tell the establishment that, or they will elect Hillary, with another progressive republican pushed to the front, so everyone stays home again.

FOX News is pushing and projecting Bush again, with Rubio taking on a halo.
You would think Rand & Ted were Hillary Clinton, talking to FOX.
When the fact is, Bush is more like Hillary, than either Rand or Ted would ever be.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Utah
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I think he has real potential connecting with voters who would not ordinarily vote Republican, but it will be a balancing act to avoid upsetting the base too much.

People are sick of spending billions on war, but he has to convince people we'll still be safe with a less interventionist foreign policy.

People often express the opinion that we should end foreign aid until we can take care of our own problems, but it will be hard to convince some people that reductions in foreign aid will inure to the benefit of the American people.

Ending the federal War On Drugs scares some people, he has to convince them they have the power within their own state to set their own agenda.

On issues like abortion and gay marriage, again, he has to convince people that leaving it up to the states is better than the Federal government making one-size-fits-all laws on such matters. He has to make it clear that his personal views on such issues won't affect Federal legislation.

But, he has to get past the GOP primary first. He stands alone in the party on a lot of issues.... perhaps the splitting of the hawks in the party helps him, but time will tell.
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Old 04-23-2015, 10:26 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Personally, I'd like to see a Paul vs. Webb election, I could more easily accept either one than the rest of the crowd.
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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Rand (or the eventual nominee) will need to separate himself in the debates and speeches as the stronger campaigner. Right now, Rubio looking very strong in my opinion.
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Old 04-23-2015, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Looking at the Electorla map the Swing states will be
NM, NV, CO, OH, NH, VA, FL, IA
Republicans must win OH, VA, FL and one or two others
I think Rand Paul's libertarian tendencies would play well in the Western swing states and NH. That's 22 electoral votes (NH, NV, NM, CO) and the downside of less motivated social conservatives would mostly affect already deep red states and not be a threat to electoral votes.
Overall of course the most important part is winning the popular vote because then the other pieces tend to fall into place, but I think Rand Paul would get to 270 more effeciently (smaller pop vote margin) than the other Candidates.
2016 Presidential Election Interactive Map and History of the Electoral College
a map with NM, CO, OH FL and OH would lead to a Republican Victory without VA, NH, and NV, the Western Swing State are key.
I have said for a few years now, he would be the answer to our problems, but can he get the nomination? Unless we learns diplomacy and a few other things he will do no better than his dad though I like him much better. Right now, all the younger people in our family are watching him and would like to support him.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Rand (or the eventual nominee) will need to separate himself in the debates and speeches as the stronger campaigner. Right now, Rubio looking very strong in my opinion.
My first choice right now is Rubio. I would be pulling for Rand Paul but I don't think his personality is going to get him very far.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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My first choice right now is Rubio. I would be pulling for Rand Paul but I don't think his personality is going to get him very far.
I'm exactly the same, I probably agree with more of Rand's policy positions but he's not the warmest candidate from what I've see. Rubio seems to have the personality and I would agree with his positions more times than not....Rubio is going to be a tough candidate to beat when all is said and done. I wish Rubio had been on the Republican ticket last time.
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Old 04-23-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Rand Paul would do what is best for America and the American people, and not what the GOP establishment wants. I would love to see a Paul/Cruz ticket.

There will be attempts to derail a Rand Paul candidacy because he scares the "old guard" and they will discredit Ted Cruz for being a Tea Party Godly Christian.

Rubio and Bush don't impress me as much but neither did other losers like Romney, McCain or Dole.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm exactly the same, I probably agree with more of Rand's policy positions but he's not the warmest candidate from what I've see. Rubio seems to have the personality and I would agree with his positions more times than not....Rubio is going to be a tough candidate to beat when all is said and done. I wish Rubio had been on the Republican ticket last time.
and his story has to warm normal peoples heart. Family excapes communism and Cuba. Dad is a bar tender, mom a maid. What a story.
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