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Folly to talk about people saying that Hillary Clinton considered to be more experienced when they won't vote for her.
The question leaves it up to the respondent to define what "experienced" means to them. In this election, being an experienced politician, is not necessarily a good thing.
that is only if they can pull off Ohio, VA, Fl as well as Colorado. Don't get too excited yet. As for Trump being ahead in Colo, I wouldn't put a lot of faith in any polls right now. 3 1/2 months from now, after the big March primaries we will see a true picture.
Pretty much, at this point the same thing can be said with both primaries, we wouldn't have a true picture of who will be running in 2016 until at least March.
Pretty much, at this point the same thing can be said with both primaries, we wouldn't have a true picture of who will be running in 2016 until at least March.
LOL. DNC isn't having a primary. They are having a dog & pony show.
King Hillary will be nominated by Super Delegates.
The problem is that most of the respondents are so irrational that their interpretation of the outlook makes them arguably less informed than the general public or if you just predicted using a groundhog.
For example, far right repubs were delusional about polling results just a week or two before the 2012 presidential election. Far left Dems were delusional about the polls heading into the 2014 midterms and the litany of excuses they've made glosses over the general fact that they've gotten clobbered everywhere but in the presidential race since 2008.
I think the big wildcard is that people here are assuming Hillary will just follow in Obama's footsteps.
That ignores everything we learned in the 2008 primaries and elections. Obama is a charismatic generally likeable guy. Hillary (to some extent it's unfair it matters so much) has NEVER had that working for her and is now quite frankly old.
She also has a track record that is directly at odds with many of her current positions. NAFTA, her massive walls street connections, big oil campaign donations.....Obama didn't have that baggage and his campaign comments weren't as dismissible as empty talk. Lastly, Hillary alienated a number of black voters during the bitter 2008 primary.
I'm not making any predictions, but she's no Obama in terms of electability. Maybe it will still be enough, too early to tell.
I have been saying the same thing for the last year.
Democrats winning is based on turn out, they have to have a candidate the energizes the base as well as moderates. Obama was able to do that, Hillary not so much. The base isn't really excited and moderates do not trust/believe in her like they did Obama. Thinking red/blue 16 will be like red/blue 12/08 is sophomoric speculation. President isn't as much about the party or ideas as it is about the person. People have to like the person, history has shown that the most likable candidate has won every election in the TV era.
Now don't get me wrong, Clinton can win, but it sure isn't a lock like some here think. I would put the odds 60/40 towards republicans not named trump and a toss up if trump.
Democrats winning is based on turn out, they have to have a candidate the energizes the base as well as moderates......
This is a myth.
Democrats, Republicans, or anyone else, win by appealing to voters. Nothing more, nothing less.
Democrats have waged war on the middle class and the middle class has abandoned them. This has already cost them control of most of the federal & state governments. It will cost them the presidency in 2016.
By running Hillary you guarantee a Republican either way.
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You say that, but I still haven't seen how Republicans are going to get to 270.
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While Democrats have secured in Michigan, WI, MN and PA, they need less and less states like Colorado to win, and if in fact the Virginia enter in Democratic bloc, practically is game over for GOP
Democrats, Republicans, or anyone else, win by appealing to voters. Nothing more, nothing less.
Democrats have waged war on the middle class and the middle class has abandoned them. This has already cost them control of most of the federal & state governments. It will cost them the presidency in 2016.
It isn't a myth, message plays a part in turn out, but happiness with the party in power is the big driver of turn out. Generally, the American people are sick of the party in power, no matter which one it is, after 8 years.
LOL. DNC isn't having a primary. They are having a dog & pony show.
King Hillary will be nominated by Super Delegates.
Of course she will because she's having a coronation. I don't know why the dems are even wasting all that money on primaries and a convention. They could just donate the money to some worthy group like Planned Parenthood instead.
What is happening in Colorado is mirrored in other purple states.
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And Oregon is going to go red in 2016. 
