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Old 02-10-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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looking at the sanders campaign, it's hard to ignore that his supporters tend to be overwhelmingly white, especially white middle class and white males, and now with increasing number of white females too.

his crowds are largely white. some say he is from vermont. but he has had enough time in the media. by now, people know him.

what makes white people support sanders?

and what causes less than predicted support from people of color and naturalized immigrants?
I am an Asian American who is very assimilated and live in a very conservative, mostly white area. Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama are all universally despised here by people of all races. The #1 candidate overall in my state is Donald Trump, followed by Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. I know more people who support Ben Carson than any of the Democrats. Unless you're in a hippie or yuppie hangout around here, and even that's not guaranteed, most people will never admit to supporting either Hillary or Bernie. Perhaps if you are in one of the handful of gay bars or in a mostly black neighborhood, but even then, there are gay people and blacks who hate the Democrats because of the war on coal and the job losses that Obama has directly caused in this region, and that the national Democrats will continue to cause with their false beliefs in global warming which have already been discredited. (didn't Al Gore say the world would be destroyed this year??????)

Also, the majority of Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans I know who are Americanized or who came here LEGALLY actually don't support illegal aliens and are also sick and tired of our tax money going to support those people while we have veterans and American kids who need help. Some of the people most opposed to illegal immigration are those who came LEGALLY. Yes ISIS is a threat and we shoudln't allow refugees, but the economic impact of illegal immigration and the crime and drugs illegals bring here should also continue to be discussed.

People say those Central Americans are coming here to escape from violence in their countries. Drug cartels and gangs usually don't just target random people. These are people who were involved in the drug trade, or whose families or friends were involved in drugs, certainly not the kind of people we want to bring into our nation. I support allowing Arab Christians and Kurds here, and people like Cuban refugees who are politically or religiously persecuted. I have far less sympathy for people who come for economic reasons. And especially crime shouldn't count as being a refugee. You are only a refugee if you are persecuted for political or religious reasons.
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Old 02-10-2016, 11:57 PM
 
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"Two goldbrickers are sitting in a restaurant ..."
while the Senate votes on North Korea..
Leaving everyone to wonder what would Bernie do?
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:23 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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People say those Central Americans are coming here to escape from violence in their countries. Drug cartels and gangs usually don't just target random people. These are people who were involved in the drug trade, or whose families or friends were involved in drugs, certainly not the kind of people we want to bring into our nation. I support allowing Arab Christians and Kurds here, and people like Cuban refugees who are politically or religiously persecuted. I have far less sympathy for people who come for economic reasons. And especially crime shouldn't count as being a refugee. You are only a refugee if you are persecuted for political or religious reasons.
Actually, yes they do, all the time. The ones south of the border are known for that. That's what makes the Mexican cartels and Central American gangs some of the most vicious, bloodthirsty organizations on earth. In El Salvador MS-13 spreads like locusts, forcing as many teen and twentysomething males to join as possible under threat of death. They even stalk desired recruits who move hours away to a different town. In Mexico the cartels have slaughtered thousands of men, women, children, elderly people, college students--you name it--who have been completely innocent and unconnected to the drug trade. If they want to set up operations in a village and there are houses where they want to build a tunnel or set up a facility, they simply destroy the homes and exterminate whole families. If a rival cartel member or someone who snitched is receiving care at a hospital, or working in an elderly care center, they go in and massacred all staff and patients surrounding their target. If their target is a college student they just take out anyone and everyone who could possibly be within earshot, who happened to be at the wrong place wrong time. It's all the more reason to build a wall and enforce immigration policy.
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Old 02-11-2016, 01:31 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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It doesn't matter who gets elected - nothing will improve the situation.
. . .

What no candidate will espouse:
[SIMPLE LAWS]
[FRUGAL GOVERNMENT]
[SECURED ENDOWED RIGHTS]
[LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL]
[INTOLERANCE OF PREDATORS]
[ABOLISH PUBLIC DEBT FOR FRAUD]
[LIBERTY MONEY CREATED BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE]
[ABOLISH LIMITED LIABILITY AND THEIR REGULATIONS]
[ABOLISH COMPULSORY CHARITY / SOCIALISM]
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Old 02-11-2016, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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looking at the sanders campaign, it's hard to ignore that his supporters tend to be overwhelmingly white, especially white middle class and white males, and now with increasing number of white females too.

his crowds are largely white. some say he is from vermont. but he has had enough time in the media. by now, people know him.

what makes white people support sanders?

and what causes less than predicted support from people of color and naturalized immigrants?

Mostly white college kids support Bernie. "The youth vote". Who can blame them? Bernie is offering free stuff and drugs. Obama offered the same thing. The problem with Clinton is she hasn't told young people that their parents will pay for everything. Once she does that, she will get the votes.
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Old 02-11-2016, 03:40 AM
 
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Mostly white college kids support Bernie. "The youth vote". Who can blame them? Bernie is offering free stuff and drugs. Obama offered the same thing. The problem with Clinton is she hasn't told young people that their parents will pay for everything. Once she does that, she will get the votes.
Their parents are also supporting him. At least in NH. The only group that he marginally lost were the +75 of age group.
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Old 02-11-2016, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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PBS Dem Debate tonight ... What we will see, Sanders talking about what he "would do" and Clinton talking about what she HAS done...
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:04 AM
 
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I am an Asian American who is very assimilated and live in a very conservative, mostly white area. Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama are all universally despised here by people of all races. The #1 candidate overall in my state is Donald Trump, followed by Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio. I know more people who support Ben Carson than any of the Democrats. Unless you're in a hippie or yuppie hangout around here, and even that's not guaranteed, most people will never admit to supporting either Hillary or Bernie. Perhaps if you are in one of the handful of gay bars or in a mostly black neighborhood, but even then, there are gay people and blacks who hate the Democrats because of the war on coal and the job losses that Obama has directly caused in this region, and that the national Democrats will continue to cause with their false beliefs in global warming which have already been discredited. (didn't Al Gore say the world would be destroyed this year??????)

Also, the majority of Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans I know who are Americanized or who came here LEGALLY actually don't support illegal aliens and are also sick and tired of our tax money going to support those people while we have veterans and American kids who need help. Some of the people most opposed to illegal immigration are those who came LEGALLY. Yes ISIS is a threat and we shoudln't allow refugees, but the economic impact of illegal immigration and the crime and drugs illegals bring here should also continue to be discussed.

People say those Central Americans are coming here to escape from violence in their countries. Drug cartels and gangs usually don't just target random people. These are people who were involved in the drug trade, or whose families or friends were involved in drugs, certainly not the kind of people we want to bring into our nation. I support allowing Arab Christians and Kurds here, and people like Cuban refugees who are politically or religiously persecuted. I have far less sympathy for people who come for economic reasons. And especially crime shouldn't count as being a refugee. You are only a refugee if you are persecuted for political or religious reasons.
Your white dad brainwashed you, urr I mean taught, you well
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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PBS Dem Debate tonight ... What we will see, Sanders talking about what he "would do" and Clinton talking about what she HAS done...

We'll then she doesn't have a heck of a lot to talk about! Perhaps Sanders can talk about his voting record on immigration and how it is worse than Hillary's? Two One World Order politicians that cannot wait!
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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while the Senate votes on North Korea..
Leaving everyone to wonder what would Bernie do?
It's so transparent that the Sanders shills at this board want to steer real clear of this. He avoided a key Senate vote in order to spend the day with the biggest race-baiting tax-evading PR pig America has ... Al Sharpton.

Pandering for the black vote at the cost of voting on an important measure. He himself called North Korea a "key concern" just the other day ... then avoided his responsibility to participate in the vote. Foreign policy is his big weakness. It *will* be exploited in coming months and rightfully so.
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