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Old 02-11-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Carmichael, CA
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If the Democratic nomination will be decided by the delegates and not the voters, then what's the point of the Dem debates and primaries? Just nominate her now--we all know that's how it's going to happen even if Sanders wins every primary.

 
Old 02-11-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Trump is a perfect example of why the Democratic Party has Super Delegates.

The Trump candidacy exposes the fact that anyone with enough money and a resonating message, regardless of how irresponsible or contrary to the a party's principles can enter the nominating process without the slightest allegiance to the party whose banner they are running under. I find that to be a fundamental organizational flaw regardless of what party we are concerned about.

^^^^^ This.
No candidate has an inherent right to hijack a political organization's platform, name, money, and infrastructure.
"Democratic" and "Republican" aren't loose labels that can be adopted willy-nilly by anyone; they are owned by section 527 organized entities. Anyone wanting to become either party's official nominee should be willing to abide by the rules and regulations of the organization.
 
Old 02-11-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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If the Democratic nomination will be decided by the delegates and not the voters, then what's the point of the Dem debates and primaries? Just nominate her now--we all know that's how it's going to happen even if Sanders wins every primary.
No, it wouldn't happen if Sanders won every primary. Party rules say that if a candidate wins a majority of delegates on the first ballot, he or she is the nominee. A candidate that wins every primary would have a majority of votes even without the superdelegates.
The point of the debates and primaries is to give every candidate a chance to win that majority.
 
Old 02-12-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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If the Democratic nomination will be decided by the delegates and not the voters, then what's the point of the Dem debates and primaries? Just nominate her now--we all know that's how it's going to happen even if Sanders wins every primary.
Who said voters don't support Hillary? Hillary Clinton got 17.9 million votes in the 2008 primaries. Bernie only has like 150k votes right now!
 
Old 02-12-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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I only registered Dem so I can vote in the Primaries this year and then switching back to Independent shortly after.
 
Old 02-12-2016, 11:07 AM
 
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Sabders has won Iowa and New Hampshire
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Sabders has won Iowa and New Hampshire
Sanders came in 2nd in Iowa. It was close, but still second - and that was even with him winning more coin tosses. Yes, he won more of them. Check the facts.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:13 PM
 
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Who's Winning the Presidential Delegate Count?

Dems know that you can't have 60% against a Hillary nomination. Democrats know what's best for our proletariat.
Rather, it should say something to voters that Hillary is overwhelmingly supported by their mutual colleagues. They are already comfortable working with her. Bernie does not have the alliances needed to get legislation passed among democrats, let alone getting some republicans to defect. The warning signs are all there and the Bernie bros ignore it because they don't want to support a woman... It's truly puerile.
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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I only registered Dem so I can vote in the Primaries this year and then switching back to Independent shortly after.

Just like Bernie only switched to democrat to run in the primary and will then switch back after...
 
Old 02-14-2016, 12:15 PM
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Sabders has won Iowa and New Hampshire
No he hasn't. Hillary attained People's wins in both states, by large margins, because the masses believe she's the best Party candidate. Her 394 delagate count to dissident fringe Bernie's paltry 44, reflect the will of the proletariat.

The struggle will be carried to SC where the Hero of Working Families will win again, and she can be awarded more praise.
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