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Old 02-29-2016, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I find it interesting that the people who tell me that Donald Trump would be a bad president are the same people who told me that Barack Obama would be a good president.

Yes, and those people were right both times! So, you should listen to them.

It's only those that can't review the numbers that think that Obama is a bad president. Evidence is that his groundbreaking law, the ACA, has successfully reduced the uninsured rate to modern day lows and premiums are rising slower than before the ACA. I know that aren't influenced by facts and numbers will say it aint so, but it's so. Millions of people who couldn't get insurance, now have insurance.

Dodd-Frank is a complicated piece of legislation, that makes it harder for the financial crisis of 2008 to happen again.

Obama policies have undone the decline left over from Bush and gotten unemployment down to 5%; the economy is growing; the deficit has been reduced by 75% -- these are all numbers that are verifiable and undeniable.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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I find it interesting that the people who tell me that Donald Trump would be a bad president are the same people who told me that Barack Obama would be a good president.

I cannot believe what Rubio is saying about Trump of late!
Rubio is disturbing, a really sick man....I heard him say with my own ears, in public, something very insulting and disturbing. Couldn't believe it? and they say Trump is bad?
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Indeed, with no shortage of reasons to criticize all of the candidates equally it seems pretty clear that the anti-Trump agenda is just that: an agenda. Powerful, wealthy interests harboring an agenda don't have a good track record with honesty, let alone the best interests of the average citizen. It's certainly something to consider, or at the very least, reason to question their motivation(s).
Ironic, coming from people who think it was legitimate to attack Obama from the minute he started campaigning. They attacked him for his pastor, they attacked him by claiming he had radical friends, which he didn't; they said he wasn't a citizen, etc., etc. After election, they attacked him for going on vacation.

The reason why people attack Trump's statements is because they are whopper lies deserving of attack.

Moreover, why shouldn't I attack Trump for his tax-proposal? Trump’s proposed cut would reduce the top rate from 39.6 percent to 25 percent – creating a giant windfall for the wealthy (at a time when the wealthy have a larger portion of the nation’s wealth than any time since 1890).

Now, we understand the need for Trump loyalists to expect that Trump get a pass on everything and not have to defend his proposals. But the guy is running for president and if he is so hot tempered that he can't take the criticism, maybe he is applying for the wrong job.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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It's only those that can't review the numbers that think that Obama is a bad president.
I have reviewed my numbers and the Obama presidency has cost me a lot. The only people who are happy with Obama are the people who are happy he took from people like me to subsidize them even though they didn't earn the money. It's called greed.

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Old 02-29-2016, 01:37 PM
 
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I think people are fed up on both sides of the aisle, and an "outsider" is going to win.

Could have been Sanders
Sanders the lifelong career politician who has run for political office at least 15 times, never held a non-goverment job in his life, never once collected a paycheck from anyone except the government?
Who has never had a personal physician other than the the attending physician of the US Congress whose fees and salary are paid by taxpayers, not Sanders and other members of Congress? Who will draw a fat retirement check from the government?

Some outsider.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I have reviewed my numbers and the Obama presidency has cost me a lot. The only people who are happy with Obama are the people who are happy he took from people like me to subside them even though they didn't earn the money. It's called greed.
Obama only raised rates taxes on the wealthy. If the Obama presidency has cost you a lot, be grateful you are in the top 1%.
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Old 02-29-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Obama only raised rates taxes on the wealthy. If the Obama presidency has cost you a lot, be grateful you are in the top 1%.
An additional 4.6% on taxable income above $450k. I wish I had that misfortune.
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Old 02-29-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Here's a kicker, I'm undecided.

I am just noting that the media is going crazy trying to convince me that Donald Trump wouldn't be a good president. The same media that got tingles up their legs over Obama.

Makes me think I need to do the opposite of what they want.

I guess that's what the point is, after all, if you don't have a mind of your own, of course you will listen to what others say.
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Old 02-29-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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An additional 4.6% on taxable income above $450k. I wish I had that misfortune.
You never will be that fortunate.

If you don't understand that higher taxes does not hurt the rich because their wealth is already in the bank/invested. Its workers like you who depend on income and with our progressive tax code, higher taxes only ensures that it will be harder for "you" to build wealth because you believe in giving your money away.

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Old 02-29-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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They only care about the continuation of their free sh*t.
funny, as Trump has proposed healthcare for all, and no cuts to medicare and social security.
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