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Old 02-29-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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Do you consider yourself an American?
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I'm not into that stuff.


Then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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Obama has specific policy positions that were workable. Trump has vague platitudes (e.g. make America Great Again) and the only specifics are either unworkable, unrealistic or unconstitutional.


three examples:
  • Banning Muslims from entering the country is unconstitutional and morally wrong.
  • His tax-plan slashes taxes on people in his income bracket and adds a trillion a year to deficits.
  • his wall is not practical from an engineering standpoint.

1. Where in our Constitution does it say we can't be selective in our immigration policies especially when it come to national security? If Muslims can be vetted properly to prove they aren't terrorists then I have no problem with them.


2. Your interpretation.


3. Congress already approved the necessary 700 miles of physical barrier. If it weren't practical from an engineering standpoint then they would not have approved it in the first place. That isn't really your objection anyway it's something entirely different and I'll just leave it at that.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Trump's vague platitudes:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
Those are vague. One of them was "we need smart negotiators" -- as if the negotiators we have aren't smart.

Another was complaining about how corrupt the VA is. Ok, what is Trump going to do about it? How much is he willing to increase the VA budget?

Another is under TAXES and says 'too few Americans are working.' In other words he's saying lowering taxes is going to result in more jobs. That's what Bush said. How many times do we need to repeat an experiment before we realize it's a failure? Moreover, that tax plan creates $10 trillion in debt.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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Then don't let the door hit you on the way out.
What a clever little phrase, never heard that one before. More proof that the title of the article is spot on.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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1. Where in our Constitution does it say we can't be selective in our immigration policies especially when it come to national security? If Muslims can be vetted properly to prove they aren't terrorists then I have no problem with them.
Where? How about the First Amendment -- Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of religion.

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3. Congress already approved the necessary 700 miles of physical barrier. If it weren't practical from an engineering standpoint then they would not have approved it in the first place. That isn't really your objection anyway it's something entirely different and I'll just leave it at that.
An Engineer Explains Why Trump's Wall Is So Implausible
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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Bernie supporters are the true idiots who cannot even do math.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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Where? How about the First Amendment -- Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of religion.


An Engineer Explains Why Trump's Wall Is So Implausible
That has nothing to do with immigration. It ONLY has to do with Congress telling you what religion you can or cannot practice while LIVING here.
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Old 02-29-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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Going to be hearing this for the next nine years, during Trump's presidency and beyond. lol
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Old 02-29-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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Those are vague. One of them was "we need smart negotiators" -- as if the negotiators we have aren't smart.

Another was complaining about how corrupt the VA is. Ok, what is Trump going to do about it? How much is he willing to increase the VA budget?

Another is under TAXES and says 'too few Americans are working.' In other words he's saying lowering taxes is going to result in more jobs. That's what Bush said. How many times do we need to repeat an experiment before we realize it's a failure? Moreover, that tax plan creates $10 trillion in debt.
OK, tell us who your candidate is and link in their campaign website so we can get an example of what you need to see. We have no other way to know exactly what you are looking for.

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Where? How about the First Amendment -- Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of religion.


An Engineer Explains Why Trump's Wall Is So Implausible
Other thoughts from what appears to be people that aren't blinded by hate for Trump:

CNN Runs Segment On Trump Wall Being Very Doable – We Explain How Mexico Pays… | The Last Refuge

Can a wall be built between U.S. and Mexico? - CNN Video

Great article, per Trump on how it can done compared with electronic surveillance which Trump has said. http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...re-the-border/

It is like, do you want to really explore the possibilities or just find something to trash Trump over and that is why the country is the way it is right now. Anyone that has listened to Trump already knows that the Wall is not going to be 2,000 miles but that some parts will have electronic surveillance.

Also, some ways to save: Save $113 billion a year after removing illegal aliens through e-verification for all jobs, mandated reporters in ALL public venues to include schools, medical facilities and social service agencies, using current databases of those with driver's licenses and other documents. Those that have been let go free from prison, etc. Save on the cost of the inevitable amnesty if Trump isn't elected: $6.3 trillion. Not a bad start.

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Going to be hearing this for the next nine years, during Trump's presidency and beyond. lol
I can deal with that!

Sadly, we can see the hatred toward Trump as he puts himself out there for the good of our country. It wouldn't hurt at all in this case for those that pray to add a little prayer to keep Trump safe from his enemies since he is risking a lot by staying in this race and it is for us. I have never seen such hatred for a candidate before but I have never seen a candidate stand up for the people before.

Trump's Wall, part solid and part electronic has been talked about for years and all the politicians have done is sit on their hands and run their mouths. Anyone can see the savings by enforcing our immigration law. A simple fee for bringing in goods like they have for toll roads and bridges would do wonders for the cost.
You think they wouldn't pay? I bet they would. If they don't want to come into the US, I am sure we have plenty of Americans that would jump at the chance to produce goods here.
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Old 02-29-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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That has nothing to do with immigration. It ONLY has to do with Congress telling you what religion you can or cannot practice while LIVING here.
Thank you, Mr. Chief Justice but others, who have more legal acumen, disagree:

Experts: Trump’s Muslim entry ban idea ‘ridiculous,’ ‘unconstitutional’
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