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Old 05-06-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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It's in the news today.

Chagrined anti-Trump Republicans seek to recruit third-party candidate

They can beat Trump and Clinton at the same time with such an effort. If no candidate gets 270 votes then The House of Representatives chooses the president. In a hypothetical example, Trump and Clinton get 85 each = 170. The 3rd gets 100. You can easily predict who the Congress will choose.

They should let Trump beat Clinton if he can.
If not then regroup for 2020 since Trump won't run again if he loses.
There is an infinitesimal chance that a conservative third party run is going to win ANY electoral votes, except in states that split the electors. What the third party will do is drain votes away from Trump. Clinton isn't like to receive conservative votes to drain.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by howard555 View Post
It's in the news today.

Chagrined anti-Trump Republicans seek to recruit third-party candidate

They can beat Trump and Clinton at the same time with such an effort. If no candidate gets 270 votes then The House of Representatives chooses the president. In a hypothetical example, Trump and Clinton get 85 each = 170. The 3rd gets 100. You can easily predict who the Congress will choose.

They should let Trump beat Clinton if he can.
If not then regroup for 2020 since Trump won't run again if he loses.
I think this would be more to counter the loss of the House and possibly the Senate in an election of Trump v. Clinton.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:01 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Clinton has a long history of fighting for the middle-class; fighting for women's rights; raising taxes on the wealthy (even if her taxes rose); fighting for health care, against outsourcing jobs, and is knowledgeable and respected abroad, etc. Even Bernie Sanders couldn't find an example where Mrs. Clinton bent policy towards Wall Street, even though she accepts donations from members of investment firms.
And yet she's been surrounded by scandal after scandal after scandal. Nobody is that "unlucky", there's something to some (many?) of the scandals and if she didn't have MSM running cover for her she'd have been toast long ago.
The truth of the matter is Bill and Hillary have fought for POWER for Bill and Hillary and if the public has happened to benefit along the way then that's just a bonus.

We don't need any more of the Clinton or Bush dynasty. ENOUGH already.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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Clinton has a long history of fighting for the middle-class; fighting for women's rights; raising taxes on the wealthy (even if her taxes rose); fighting for health care, against outsourcing jobs, and is knowledgeable and respected abroad, etc. Even Bernie Sanders couldn't find an example where Mrs. Clinton bent policy towards Wall Street, even though she accepts donations from members of investment firms.
She has no history of any of that.. She says she does, but saying and doing isnt close to the same thing..
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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And yet she's been surrounded by scandal after scandal after scandal. Nobody is that "unlucky", there's something to some (many?) of the scandals and if she didn't have MSM running cover for her she'd have been toast long ago.
The truth of the matter is Bill and Hillary have fought for POWER for Bill and Hillary and if the public has happened to benefit along the way then that's just a bonus.

We don't need any more of the Clinton or Bush dynasty. ENOUGH already.
No, in fact she has been the subject of many smears that ended up being dropped. The government, lead by the GOP House, spent $75 million on White Water, only to drop the whole matter. The same was true for all the other non-"scandals."

The objective is to switftboat Mrs. Clinton -- keep repeating lies that are eventually accepted as truth.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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The establishment is apoplectic at the thought of Trump being the presumptive head of the Republican Party. They would rather give the WH to the Democrats then lose their party.
They also don't want to lose total control of Congress. That's they're big fear. If they launch a conservative third party bid, they lose the WH but they'll bring out conservative voters to vote against Trump and for their Congressmen/Congresswomen. If there's no viable conservative choice, then most of those conservatives aren't likely to vote at all ... including for other Republicans running for office.
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There are a few interesting names being bandied about.

Nikki Haley might be the perfect third party candidate. She would get a crossover vote, she's very popular, independent, strong, and she is a woman and ethnic minority member. I think she would make a good president.

Ten third-party candidate names at top of Never Trump
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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It's in the news today.

Chagrined anti-Trump Republicans seek to recruit third-party candidate

They can beat Trump and Clinton at the same time with such an effort. If no candidate gets 270 votes then The House of Representatives chooses the president. In a hypothetical example, Trump and Clinton get 85 each = 170. The 3rd gets 100. You can easily predict who the Congress will choose.

They should let Trump beat Clinton if he can.
If not then regroup for 2020 since Trump won't run again if he loses.
Sorry to poop on your parade, but the reliable Blue, ie heavily Democratic, states that HRC isn't going to lose give her about 220-240 electoral votes. A conservative third party is NOT going to shake any of those electoral votes loose, and splitting the anti-Hillary votes between Trump and a conservative-to-be-named-later will give Hillary victories in the swing states and possibly even in some Red states.

The conservatives are out to try to staunch the Congressional hemoraging if they can.
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Old 05-06-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs up Conservatives Gather to Plot Third-Party Run Against Trump

Dear Conservos:

Please split your vote this fall.

Yours truly,

DNC

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Old 05-06-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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The "anyone but Hillary" should keep them from getting traction.
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