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Old 04-03-2016, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
Do you consider Trump a conservative?
Trump is more of a conservative than the Republican party.. they are now acting like the old democratic party of the 70's.

 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Lol @ this Google constitutional scholar. Even super conservatives like Ted Cruz disagree with your laughable interpretation of the 14th.

Texas was even denied the right to ban illegal immigrant children an education back in 1983. The SCOTUS rationale mentioned something about these kids being subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

But yeah, babies born on US soil aren't actual citizens. Keep dreaming.
IMO, won't be long before the U.S. joins the ranks of those countries that abolish birthright citizenship.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Lol @ this Google constitutional scholar. Even super conservatives like Ted Cruz disagree with your laughable interpretation of the 14th.

Texas was even denied the right to ban illegal immigrant children an education back in 1983. The SCOTUS rationale mentioned something about these kids being subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

But yeah, babies born on US soil aren't actual citizens. Keep dreaming.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
On some issues, yes. On others, no. Why do you ask?
I ask because many conservatives don't believe Trump is a real conservative. They believe he has hijacked the conservative movement within the Republican party for his own purposes, but doesn't actually believe in the conservative platform. And, in fact, conservatives are leading the effort to thwart him at the convention.

Eric Erickson of Red State said his group is "committed to ensuring a real conservative candidate is elected. We believe that neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump--a Hillary Clinton donor--is that person.

"Our multiple decades of work in the conservative movement for free markets, limited government, national defense, religious liberty, life, and marriage are about ideas, not necessarily parties."

They believe that if Trump is the GOP nominee, the GOP will cease to be a party for traditional conservatives, who will have to go elsewhere after 2016.

Conservatives gather to plot against Donald Trump - CNNPolitics.com

Seems like Trump is going to rupture the party one way or another.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:21 PM
 
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Trump is more of a conservative than the Republican party.. they are now acting like the old democratic party of the 70's.
Yep democrats have become socialists and republicans have become democrat lites
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Down in a Hole View Post
Yeah, you don't care what a poll says, so even if it is right and goes against your belief, you will still deny it..thats just sad..sad and ignorant..smdh.



Conservatives have no one to blame but themselves for this. They created this "monster" and now they have to deal with it and can't stop it.




Lmao, oh man, that's a good one.



Oh, money and land you say? Hmm, where have I read this before..oh yes yes yes! You mean just like whites did when they took over Texas(Mexico) and killed the Native Americans back in the 17 and 1800s?
Fact is AMerica should have kept all the land in Mexico.. Texas and California are thriving and many Mexicans that lived in Texas and California are getting the benefits from it.. the Mexicans in Mexico aren't doing as well.

The Indians were at war with each other.. some tribes took land from other tribes.. nothing new here. So the white man came and developed the land.. such a terrible fate.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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What about the people who are too stupid to know when to use "too" and not "to?"

The fact is that most illegal immigrants in the U.S. come in through airports and ship ports and just overstay their visas. A wall has no effect on those and the stats say more are leaving the U.S. than coming from Mexico.

Then, the complexity of the wall makes it impractical. It will cost many billions of dollars, take years to build; require the cost of building every seven years in maintenance; will require taking 1,000 miles of private lands away from Americans, etc.

Wrong! Only 40% of illegals are visa overstays. 60% are border jumpers. The wall along 700 miles of our most porous southern border was already approved by congress. It costs us $100 billion a year to allow illegals to remain here and to continue to come here. The wall would pay for itself in no time. Anyone who cries over land rather than supporting our national security is a fool.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Lol @ this Google constitutional scholar. Even super conservatives like Ted Cruz disagree with your laughable interpretation of the 14th.

Texas was even denied the right to ban illegal immigrant children of an education back in 1983. The SCOTUS rationale mentioned something about these kids being subject to the jurisdiction of the US.

But yeah, babies born on US soil aren't actual citizens. Keep dreaming.
They are invading our country.. we are overrun by illegals and they do not fall under the 14th amendment. Better read it again.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Wrong! Only 40% of illegals are visa overstays. 60% are border jumpers. The wall along 700 miles of our most porous southern border was already approved by congress. It costs us $100 billion a year to allow illegals to remain here and to continue to come here. The wall would pay for itself in no time. Anyone who cries over land rather than supporting our national security is a fool.
Since Nafta, the trucks rolling all over the US are bringing illegals in also.. no one talks about that.. some get a ride here among the cargo.
 
Old 04-03-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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IMO, won't be long before the U.S. joins the ranks of those countries that abolish birthright citizenship.
SCOTUS will look at its prior rulings and laugh at your prediction.

Again, Texas tried to deny illegal immigrant children of an education back in 1983. SCOTUS said "no chance, they're part of YOUR jurisdiction".

Based on that ruling, what makes you think they'll abolish birthright citizenship?

You'll need an constitutional amendment. Good luck with that.
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