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Not sure what you mean by "non-establishment," but if you are referring to the first candidate to never have held elected office, I would say he is the first in the history of the country.
Washington, Zachary Taylor, US Grant and Eisenhower didn't hold elective office prior to winning the Presidency.
True, but they all held various national positions of some kind.
Trump has never held any national position at all. That makes him a first. He has never even served in a local party central committee before, has never been in the military, and has never had a government job of any kind.
if he wins the nomination, he is the very first total outsider to do so, and if he wins the election, that's another first.
Washington, Zachary Taylor, US Grant and Eisenhower didn't hold elective office prior to winning the Presidency.
Damn, how did I blow that!
Either way, I find it hard to argue that Washington, and Eisenhower weren't part of the establishment. Taylor and Grant... still trying to figure out a workable definition of establishment.
Carter and Reagan were both non-establishment Presidents. Carter was nominated out of a very split field and faced a great deal of party opposition as a relative conservative in the Democratic Party. Four years later, Reagan was the decided outsider defeating the establishment candidate George H.W. Bush in the primaries.
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Originally Posted by Goinback2011
Washington, Zachary Taylor, US Grant and Eisenhower didn't hold elective office prior to winning the Presidency.
Prior to the War of Independence, George Washington was elected to several terms in Virginia's House of Burgesses, the colonial legislature.
Aside from Eisenhower, the only other 20th century Presidents who did not hold prior elective office were Herbert Hoover and William Taft - both had held only appointed positions previously. Since Ike, every President has previously been a Senator (JFK, LBJ, Nixon, Obama), a Governor (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, GW Bush), a Vice President (LBJ, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush), or some combination thereof. Failed nominees Romney, McCain, Kerry, Gore, Dole, Dukakis, Mondale, McGovern, Humphrey and Goldwater all follow this pattern as well. Of the remaining contenders, only Trump doesn't have such a background.
You really think Dumb Donald is going to get elected? At this point, he's not even going to be the nominee with a brokered convention
Dumb Donald? That makes him fit to succeed Obama.
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