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Old 04-07-2016, 02:05 AM
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_"Hillary Clinton Again Looks Upstate for Win in New York"_
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/us...-new-york.html

"...Mrs. Clinton’s style of pragmatic problem solving,...." -NYT, objectively, on the proletariat hero of Working Familes

The house organ wants to let them know that "Mrs. Clinton harbors an emotional attachment to upstate, even making sure that her State Department office always had a fresh shipment of New York apples and putting wine ice cream from the Finger Lakes on the dessert menu at official dinners. Campaigning in Depew on Tuesday, former President Bill Clinton said her years in the Senate working to help New Yorkers were “the happiest she ever was.”"

Too bad they're more unemployed now than when she started the Senate, and were stagnant throughout her tenure.

For Upstate is side by side with Vermont, bears no resemblance with Hillary's EBT base.

 
Old 04-07-2016, 03:29 AM
 
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I hate Hillary Clinton, but she will probably win New York.

As much as New Yorkers like to pretend that they are sophisticated and the center of the free world, they are all just basically dupes for the Democratic party. Check the polls and you will see that they are not even into the Sanders resolution. They vote as the democratic party tells them.

If it were not so, then she could have not been walked in as a carpetbagger to be their Senator by Daniel Patrick Moynihan in the first place.

She will win New York, and upstate will be razor thin one way or the other with the metropolitan areas voting heavily for her.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 03:36 AM
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_"Hillary Clinton Again Looks Upstate for Win in New York"_
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/us...-new-york.html

"...Mrs. Clinton’s style of pragmatic problem solving,...." -NYT, objectively, on the proletariat hero of Working Familes

The house organ wants to let them know that "Mrs. Clinton harbors an emotional attachment to upstate, even making sure that her State Department office always had a fresh shipment of New York apples and putting wine ice cream from the Finger Lakes on the dessert menu at official dinners. Campaigning in Depew on Tuesday, former President Bill Clinton said her years in the Senate working to help New Yorkers were “the happiest she ever was.”"

Too bad they're more unemployed now than when she started the Senate, and were stagnant throughout her tenure.

For Upstate is side by side with Vermont, bears no resemblance with Hillary's EBT base.

Couldn't agree with you more! Bill was here on Monday in Depew at the Grapevine Restaurant in one of the Banquet rooms.

Bill Clinton in Depew: New York primary could matter most - Politics Now

As you can see it looks full but I can tell you the banquet rooms are regular size rooms. I know someone who went because he got a call from a city leader he interned for in college - they couldn't even give the tickets away and had to call up people to get a crowd.

Hillary will be here Friday and will be at the Zebro Family Conference Center at Roswell Park Cancer Institute. I haven't been able to find out how many it seats. Meanwhile Trump is coming a week from Sunday and is having his rally at First Niagara Arena which holds 19,000 people. People are clamoring for tickets.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 04:38 AM
 
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We have a history of supporting corrupt candidates that lie and tell us they care about us so that puts Hillary in the drivers seat.

Longtime aide insists Sheldon Silver ‘cared for all New Yorkers’ | New York Post

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Sheldon Silver’s longtime chief of staff has gone to bat for her old boss, vouching that the convicted former Assembly speaker “always cared for and worked to help all New Yorkers,” new court filings show.
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The 72-year-old Lower East Side Democrat, who was once one of the three most powerful men in Albany, faces up to 130 years in prison. His sentencing, scheduled for April 13, was pushed back to May 12.

Silver was convicted last year of corruption and bribery charges for scamming nearly $4 million in kickbacks by peddling his influence in the state Capitol.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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For Upstate is side by side with Vermont, bears no resemblance with Hillary's EBT base.
You obviously know Upstate NY and its politics so well ...
 
Old 04-07-2016, 06:37 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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I hate Hillary Clinton, but she will probably win New York.

As much as New Yorkers like to pretend that they are sophisticated and the center of the free world, they are all just basically dupes for the Democratic party. Check the polls and you will see that they are not even into the Sanders resolution. They vote as the democratic party tells them.

If it were not so, then she could have not been walked in as a carpetbagger to be their Senator by Daniel Patrick Moynihan in the first place.

She will win New York, and upstate will be razor thin one way or the other with the metropolitan areas voting heavily for her.
With all due respect, New Yorkers will cross party lines if the Republican Party actually puts up a decent candidate. Even in the Democratic stronghold of New York City. Some of the best New York City mayors were Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Fiorello La Guardia. This of course requires the Republicans to actually find good candidates, something they seem to have a problem with.

I will say that I NEVER heard that Upstate loves Hillary Clinton until literally this week. I think that is just political propaganda from the Clinton camp being spread from friends of her in the media.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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OP is correct. Beautiful Upstate NY is not Hillary country.
 
Old 04-07-2016, 03:23 PM
 
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With all due respect, New Yorkers will cross party lines if the Republican Party actually puts up a decent candidate. Even in the Democratic stronghold of New York City. Some of the best New York City mayors were Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Fiorello La Guardia. This of course requires the Republicans to actually find good candidates, something they seem to have a problem with.

I will say that I NEVER heard that Upstate loves Hillary Clinton until literally this week. I think that is just political propaganda from the Clinton camp being spread from friends of her in the media.
No, they don't "cross party lines." Liberal trash like Dinkins messes things up so badly that they have to put in a Guliani to fix things because they are terrified. Once he fixes things, they revert back to type.

You are going wrong in acting like it is a conscious choice--it is a fear response.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 04:08 AM
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Well - with the high taxes and loss of manufacturing jobs the past 10 yrs - the additional rules & regs put upon industry with Obama's EPA love - NY is in fear. They bought Obama's Hope and Change - thought electing Hillary would turn things around - they've learned the hard way as things continue to get worse here.
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