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Old 04-08-2016, 05:18 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Hillary is at 55% in unfavorability, Trump is at 65%.
Lisa - numbers change - it's only April. We're talking a poll first of all and 10% at that.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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Lisa - numbers change - it's only April. We're talking a poll first of all and 10% at that.
He's getting worse, not better.

The more he opens his mouth the more people don't like him.
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Old 04-08-2016, 05:28 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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He's getting worse, not better.

The more he opens his mouth the more people don't like him.
Sure whatever ... we'll see.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Makes perfect sense.

Trump is the worst politician of modern times, by an enormous margin. It makes sense that he would be the most hated too.
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Old 04-09-2016, 05:50 AM
 
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It is a question of who you dislike MORE. If this is the match up in the General, I will hold my nose and vote for Hillary. I dislike Hillary but I DESPISE The Donald. It is a shame it has to be like that, but it is what it is.
That proves nothing.

The poll doesn't measure HOW MUCH politicians are disliked.

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All the candidates have high unfavorable views, some more than others. You cannot base your vote on polls for unfavorable numbers. You should vote based on platform and trust. Platform is what they say they will do, while trust is based on what they have done in the past versus what they say they will do in the future. I just wish a quarter of the voters would do that.
Me, too.

Trump could be a smelly hunchback. I'd still support him if I agreed with his positions.

But a lot of people are too stupid to vote on that basis.

They'd rather vote for the "cute one" and then get stabbed in the back.

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Cruz does not have a chance. Even if he stays in and there is a contested convention - the Republicans will not make him the Republican nominee.
And even if they did, there is no way he could win in a general election.

Talk about being conservative -- he is WAY too far to the right of the electorate to win the general election.

Trump has a much better chance of winning than Cruz.

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Trump is now the most disliked politician in modern times

Really? I guess it depends on what are "Modern Times". Why do people believe this propaganda without even a second thought? Lazy? Deliberate Lies? or is just blind bias?

NO - Trump doesn't have the most unfavorable polling numbers "in Modern Times". I remember another Candidate that had numbers a bit worse - the voters like him, the Political Elites & Media did not.

That prize goes to Ronald Reagan - who had a 70% Unfavorability Rating on April 15, 1980 and a "highly mediocre 34% in National Polling" on the same date.
Well said.

The latest technique of the lying liberal media is to spin things in such a way that it appears that the people they support are winning, and the ones they don't support are losing.

They hope that by doing that enough, people will give up supporting what the lying lib media opposes.

Goebbels and Hitler used the same techniques, as did Lenin and Stalin.

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Oh, the old "Reagan in 1980" Trumpette comparison again? One more time, just for you

This Is Not 1980, And Donald Trump Is Not Ronald Reagan | RedState

Heres more for you

Donald Trump is now the least popular American politician in three decades - LA Times
Nice try.

The relevant comparison here is likability ratings, not what year it is.

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Really? Trump has received over $2 BILLION in free airtime. How much of it has been used attacking Cruz the past 4 months? Hundreds of millions Im sure. Why would you need attack ads when you can just do it yourself at every rally, press conference and news event you hold that gets blasted all over every news channel for free?
Too bad.

CNN has pointed out repeatedly that air time has always been available to Cruz and the other candidates, but that they wouldn't take advantage of it.

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If Cruz had a personality, he would've gotten more air time as well. Please let him know he can pick up a personality at Trump Tower while he's in NYC this week.
Exactly.

Listen to him enough times, and he looks and sounds like the guy in high school who always had to be on the student council but that nobody liked.

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Old 04-09-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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trump is disliked by the media, you mean.

trump is still winning! and NY is coming, and some other Trump happy states!

trump is anti illegal immigration- and pro border security, and the media hates it.

trump is anti globalism and bad trade deals, and the media hates it.

trump is pro small business and job creation, and the media hates it.

trump is a true conservative by the old definition (non interventionist) and the media hates it.

trump is anti NATO, and wasted government spending, and the media hates it.

trump will end obamacare and open up drug competition, and the media hates it.

what will they even talk about when he is elected?
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:22 AM
 
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Trump has a much better chance of winning than Cruz.
You appear to be wrong on that. Worst losing margin is trump's, then cruz... and the candidate that is being ignored has the best chance of winning on the republican side.

clinton beats trump by a larger margin than clinton beats cruz
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton

sanders beats trump by a larger margin than sanders beats cruz
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton


But... kasich beats clinton, although he us up and down with sanders
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Kasich vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Kasich vs. Sanders
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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Mike Huckabee and Ben Carson had incredible favorable numbers. Nobody looked at them unfavorably. How did they do? Nobody voted for them.

Trump may be a vulgar and unpolished speaker - but he has common sense, and is not afraid to try to fix things.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Mike Huckabee and Ben Carson had incredible favorable numbers. Nobody looked at them unfavorably. How did they do? Nobody voted for them.

Trump may be a vulgar and unpolished speaker - but he has common sense, and is not afraid to try to fix things.
That's just it ... voters want another politically correct pansy that will sit on his/her hands rather than say something that might offend someone. I don't anyone running our country that can't say "Islamic terrorist".
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Old 04-09-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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ie, if trump is so unpopular, and cruz or anyone else can't even beat him in the vast majority of the primary races, your point is meaningless about a general election as the other candidates won't get there if the popular vote/who has the most delegates matters most in the end. And of course it shows cruz and kasich even more unpopular than trump in the primary!
This is real simple, I am surprised so many Trump supporters ask this.


Here are some points to consider:
-Virtually no one in the Democratic primary will end up voting for Trump

-Trump doesn't have a majority of votes in the GOP primary.

-Some exit polls of states that Trump won indicate that a MAJORITY of GOP voters in the state say that they strongly don't want Trump to be the nominee and oppose him. Yet Trump won the state with less than 40% of the vote.

-Polling indicates that millions of GOP/GOP-leaning independents say they will refuse to vote for Trump.

-A vast amount of polling indicates that a less divisive man like Kasich does about 18% net swing better than Trump.

-Polling indicates that about 70% of women don't approve of Trump and find him offensive.

-It is easy to win so many states when the vote is fractured between multiple candidates.
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