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Old 04-09-2016, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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lol, agree and rep.....I hate Trumpster, but lets not insult him to that level....
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:14 PM
 
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According to the polls, Kasich has the lowest unfavorability rating of all the POTUS candidates, and Cruz has almost a poor of showing as Trump does -- and of the Democratic candidates, Clinton is viewed much more unfavorably than Sanders. This is why I think that unless something changes, we are once again going to have the majority of U.S. citizens very unhappy with the probable winner.

Favorability/Unfavorability

Trump 35/ 65
Cruz 32/ 53
Kasich 42/ 34

Clinton 40/ 55
Sanders 49/ 42

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Trump: Favorable/Unfavorable
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Cruz: Favorable/Unfavorable
John Kasich Favorable Rating - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

Hillary Clinton Favorable Rating - Polls - HuffPost Pollster
Bernie Sanders Favorable Rating - Polls - HuffPost Pollster

(Sorry, but I did not see the Real Clear Politics ratings for Kasich, Clinton, or Sanders, if there are any.)
One thing that should be noted is that with both Hillary and Trump virtually every person asked has formed an opinion. Only about 5% of those asked did not commit to either favorable or unfavorable with those choices. Both Clinton and Trump have well established brand names. Their numbers are not likely to change that much because they're too well known and voters opinions of them are well established.

Ted Cruz is the least well known of the three. Fifteen percent didn't have an opinion of Cruz, meaning he has more of an opportunity to change his numbers, for better or worse. My guess is that if he is nominated it will be for the worse, because he would be the most stridently conservative candidate of probably nearly 100 years, and I doubt that fact or his personality would wear that well.

But as Lindsey Graham said, it's like choosing between poison or a bullet.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:20 PM
 
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One thing that should be noted is that with both Hillary and Trump virtually every person asked has formed an opinion..
We are headed for record unfavorables in both parties, which means winner is like a 4 year lame duck.
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Let's not get carried away. It would take a miracle to make Palin look like a genius, although she does actually have more experience governing than Trump, being an experienced mayor and half-term governor and all.
I honestly think she would whip Trump soundly in a debate. That's how willfully clueless he is.
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Old 04-09-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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I honestly think she would whip Trump soundly in a debate. That's how willfully clueless he is.
That means she would whip all of the other hapless GOP candidates in a debate as Trump won them all.
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Old 04-09-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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That means she would whip all of the other hapless GOP candidates in a debate as Trump won them all.
No, not unless you believe Mr. Trump, who in turn relies on Drudge's online survey after each debate (seriously. . . he has said so many times how he judges who won each debate).

Pundit/expert/journalist types have picked Cruz or Marco most of the time, but you will surely dismiss them as "MSM".

Everyone's gonna see what they want to see, so roughly 70% will say Hillary won the debates, and 30% would say Mr. Trump did. No matter what. 70% being the number of the registered general electorate who say they would "definitely not vote" for Mr. Trump.

Mick
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:57 PM
 
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No, not unless you believe Mr. Trump, who in turn relies on Drudge's online survey after each debate (seriously. . . he has said so many times how he judges who won each debate).

Pundit/expert/journalist types have picked Cruz or Marco most of the time, but you will surely dismiss them as "MSM".

Everyone's gonna see what they want to see, so roughly 70% will say Hillary won the debates, and 30% would say Mr. Trump did. No matter what. 70% being the number of the registered general electorate who say they would "definitely not vote" for Mr. Trump.

Mick
Thats exactly what he believes. Polls where internet trolls can sit there and vote for Trump a thousand times, as he probably does.
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Old 04-10-2016, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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That means she would whip all of the other hapless GOP candidates in a debate as Trump won them all.
Despite what the kool-aid drinkers say, Trump never came close to winning any of those debates. He was always the least informed person on stage.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:08 AM
 
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trump is anti illegal immigration- and pro border security, and the media hates it.

trump is anti globalism and bad trade deals, and the media hates it.

trump is pro small business and job creation, and the media hates it.

trump is a true conservative by the old definition (non interventionist) and the media hates it.

trump is anti NATO, and wasted government spending, and the media hates it.

trump will end obamacare and open up drug competition, and the media hates it.
Trump is exactly what conservatives and Republicans have said they wanted.

Now that it's there for them, a lot of them are freaking out.

Human perversity at work here....

"The only thing worse than not getting what you want is getting it" -- Oscar Wilde

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You appear to be wrong on that. Worst losing margin is trump's, then cruz... and the candidate that is being ignored has the best chance of winning on the republican side.

clinton beats trump by a larger margin than clinton beats cruz
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton

sanders beats trump by a larger margin than sanders beats cruz
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Sanders
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton


But... kasich beats clinton, although he us up and down with sanders
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Kasich vs. Clinton
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Kasich vs. Sanders
These polls mean nothing at this point.

Reagan was 30 points or more behind Carter and he won.

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Trump doesn't have a majority of votes in the GOP primary.
With 17 candidates, why would you expect him to have the majority?

Clinton won the presidency without having a majority of votes in 1992.

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-Polling indicates that millions of GOP/GOP-leaning independents say they will refuse to vote for Trump.
Famous last words.

They'll vote for him when they see the alternative.

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A vast amount of polling indicates that a less divisive man like Kasich does about 18% net swing better than Trump.
That's nice, but Kasich has only won one state so far.

You might as well vote for Mickey Mouse.

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Polling indicates that about 70% of women don't approve of Trump and find him offensive.
70% of women find men in general offensive.

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Not surprised. He can't even garner more than 30% of his own party's vote.
And the other Republican candidates can't even get that much.

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We are headed for record unfavorables in both parties, which means winner is like a 4 year lame duck.
That all depends on performance.

Or maybe not even that, considering that the O-boy won an undeserved second term.

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Despite what the kool-aid drinkers say, Trump never came close to winning any of those debates. He was always the least informed person on stage.
If being "informed" were the criterion, we should vote for an Obama third term.

No, thank you.
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Old 04-10-2016, 04:38 AM
 
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This is why the GOP establishment is scared because they know they cannot run this man in a general election because it will be an all time disaster. I mean he's in danger of putting several GOP states in play come November
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