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Old 05-22-2016, 11:54 PM
 
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"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Go Trump!
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by sll3454 View Post
"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
A lot of the die hard establishment supporters are to entrenched in their own political ideologies to consider anything that's not similar to their own.

Hopefully the majority of independents will take a closer look at the third party option this year.
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Old 05-23-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Looks like a good fit for Bernie's supporters if/when he gives in/or is defeated.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Isn't the Libertarian a doper?
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: North America
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~yawns~
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Looks like a good fit for Bernie's supporters if/when he gives in/or is defeated.
Yes sanders supporters love the trade agreements too! /s
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Just to clarify for those who didn't already know, the presumptive Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson -- former governor of New Mexico -- just recently announced that William Weld -- former governor of Massachusetts -- would be his running mate. Both men were extremely popular governors, winning re-election by huge margins. Both are true Libertarians. They are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

It's what America really needs right now.
  • Stopping government from trying to run our lives for us.
  • Stopping the government from spending like a bunch of idiots.

Now if Johnson can break the glass ceiling and get into the general election debates, he's got a very real chance of winning. At minimum, Johnson and Weld will make it very clear that Americans don't have to choose "the lesser of two evils" or "hold you nose and pull the lever." Even if the LP isn't your third party, it raises awareness that you don't have to just blindly vote D or R. You've got other options.
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Old 05-23-2016, 10:58 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Just to clarify for those who didn't already know, the presumptive Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson -- former governor of New Mexico -- just recently announced that William Weld -- former governor of Massachusetts -- would be his running mate. Both men were extremely popular governors, winning re-election by huge margins. Both are true Libertarians. They are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

It's what America really needs right now.
  • Stopping government from trying to run our lives for us.
  • Stopping the government from spending like a bunch of idiots.

Now if Johnson can break the glass ceiling and get into the general election debates, he's got a very real chance of winning. At minimum, Johnson and Weld will make it very clear that Americans don't have to choose "the lesser of two evils" or "hold you nose and pull the lever." Even if the LP isn't your third party, it raises awareness that you don't have to just blindly vote D or R. You've got other options.
I couldent have said it better, I think the Libertarian Party is a little too isolationist and behind the times on foreign policy but I strongly agree with their fiscally conservative/socially moderate domestic policy.

Johnson/Weld '16 - the common sense ticket
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
The liberterian position is just 'too far out there' for most people. No public lands? Private charities to solve the hunger problem?

Hope.

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Yes sanders supporters love the trade agreements too! /s
Really?
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