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Old 06-08-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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I have been saying just this to anyone who would listen. Good for Duncan Hunter.
Rep Compares Trump Judge To A Muslim-American Judging Chris Kyle | The Daily Caller

And I don't really like Trump, but, he's better than the alternative. There is more to his comments than the headline would indicate by the way and really the most important part. You can just read it or listen to the video.

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Old 06-08-2016, 04:15 PM
 
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So, no white judge can preside over a black person's employment racial discrimination lawsuit? No Christian judge can preside over an abortion lawsuit? No male judge can preside over a rape case? So on and so on.

You need to show a particularized evidence of bias. Sorry, it's just that we are in America and all . . . .

Mick
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:21 PM
 
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now hunter is making the claim that iraqi-american and/or muslim judges are incapable of being impartial. once again, trump is doing decades worth of damage to the GOP's ability to connect to minorities.


one major point that hunter overlooked or is ignorant of is that the judge was assigned to this case before trump announced his candidacy and made the statements he believes the judge is bias against. if our justice system worked that way all a defendant would have to do is perpetually make offensive public statements against judges and he'd never stand trial.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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We are talking about Trump and his message and stand on the issues is at the National level. How often do we see a change of venue, very selective attorneys when it comes to choosing a jury? I don't understand why this is any different.

As someone that is pro-life, I would love to be the judge for Hillary and she would be demanding someone else especially if she were up for a possible death sentence. See, that is how it works!

I would love to have been a judge should Bill have went on trial for rape. Ah, they both would have "bought" the best.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I have been saying just this to anyone who would listen. Good for Duncan Hunter.
Rep Compares Trump Judge To A Muslim-American Judging Chris Kyle | The Daily Caller

And I don't really like Trump, but, he's better than the alternative. There is more to his comments than the headline would indicate by the way and really the most important part. You can just read it or listen to the video.
I understand the point he was making. I would argue that Behavioral patterns are important, not necessarily the ethnicity or the religious background.

For example, I have couple of veteran friends hold very negative views toward all Muslims due to what they have experienced in battle field. Do I blame them? No. They know that they have to avoid Muslims in order to stay fair and balanced.

I also have veterans friends who have no problems with Muslims. So they will have no problems staying fair and balanced.

It all depends on individuals.

This said, I believe the anti-military judge should certainly recuse himself in Chris Kyle's case. But you know this is not going to happen, because only an idiot would admit he is anti military lol
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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We are talking about Trump and his message and stand on the issues is at the National level. How often do we see a change of venue, very selective attorneys when it comes to choosing a jury? I don't understand why this is any different.

As someone that is pro-life, I would love to be the judge for Hillary and she would be demanding someone else especially if she were up for a possible death sentence. See, that is how it works!

I would love to have been a judge should Bill have went on trial for rape. Ah, they both would have "bought" the best.
So you admit that you would be biased, and that you would not rule according to the law, but according to your personal bias.

That's why you are not a judge.

Don't put your own inability to remain unbiased onto everyone else, though. Especially a judge who has never given any indication of bias in his rulings.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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So you admit that you would be biased, and that you would not rule according to the law, but according to your personal bias.

That's why you are not a judge.

Don't put your own inability to remain unbiased onto everyone else, though. Especially a judge who has never given any indication of bias in his rulings.
Any trial lawyers would tell you that the unfair judge is a rarity, but judges are human too so they are subject to the same faults, as the rest of us.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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We are talking about Trump and his message and stand on the issues is at the National level. How often do we see a change of venue, very selective attorneys when it comes to choosing a jury? I don't understand why this is any different.

As someone that is pro-life, I would love to be the judge for Hillary and she would be demanding someone else especially if she were up for a possible death sentence. See, that is how it works!

I would love to have been a judge should Bill have went on trial for rape. Ah, they both would have "bought" the best.
Good point. That is why Selecting a Fair and Impartial Jury is very important for any trails.

Judge can be biased too. but unfortunately, Pulling judge from case is rare
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:53 PM
 
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We are talking about Trump and his message and stand on the issues....
that he put out to the public AFTER the judge was selected for this trial.

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How often do we see a change of venue, ...
not uncommon, but it requires the attorney to put a motion before the judge to change venues and give an exact reason why.

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..very selective attorneys when it comes to choosing a jury?
every jury trial both attorneys get to revue/select jurors from the jury pool. they don't get to select judges.

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I don't understand why this is any different.
it's not. this is basically a garden variety trial that trump is throwing a temper-tantrum over because it's not going his way.

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As someone that is pro-life, I would love to be the judge for Hillary and she would be demanding someone else especially if she were up for a possible death sentence. See, that is how it works!
no it doesn't. i'm pretty sure in your little fantasy situation a motion to recuse would be submitted.
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Old 06-08-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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Any trial lawyers would tell you that the unfair judge is a rarity, but judges are human too so they are subject to the same faults, as the rest of us.
I don't dispute that. But there must be just cause for a judge to be removed from a case. And "You're a Mexican and I don't like Mexicans" is not just cause.
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