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Hillary has to get a better hold of these violent liberals. Random violence in the streets. Calling non-white Trump supporters "race traitors" as if the Democrats own all minority voters.
This brave man said it is easier coming out as gay than coming out as a Trump supporter in California. Sad.
Seeing all of this violence makes me more likely to vote for Trump. Hillary better come down hard in opposing this lawlessness.
Freedom of speech and democracy is a 2 way street and must require peaceful protest and the right for all to express themselves peacefully.
I despise Hillary and think she needs to rot in prison for her crimes, but I wonder what do you expect her to do to stop these lunatics from rioting and attacking? She can't stop them. As I said in another thread, this violence and rioting is bigger than Hillary, bigger than Sanders, bigger than Obama, bigger than the lying media. Their lies are complicit in empowering these people to feel that it's acceptable to act like they do, but there's not a thing that Hillary can do about the violent thugs. She can tell them to stop all she wants, they aren't going to listen.
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This chit is not right.
But nothing in the article says that the attackers even knew this gentleman is gay. No epithets were said before the attack. So that's rather gratuitous and misleading to imply that he got his butt kicked because of his orientation.
I don't know why y'all assume that Trump protesters are liberals or Democrats. From the looks of things, I am entirely sure that most of them do not vote and/or cannot vote . . . many claim that most of them are illegals. They are just anti-Trump. This world is not binary between Democrats vs. Republicans, or liberals v. RWNJs. But you know that.
Mick
Up to the "they are just anti Trump" I agree with you. They aren't just "anti Trump" however. But I don't believe they are all liberals or Dems, nor do I believe most of them can or would vote. I believe a lot of them ARE illegals and the illegals' excuse makers who hate America. Someone is paying them, but I don't believe it's Sanders or Hillary.
Hillary is status quo...nothing will change under her.
Sanders is a socialist and everyone knows that if he got elected, half the stuff he wanted to do would never have happened.
Trump...that's another story. While many mock and call him stupid, the fact is, he is a very successful businessman worldwide, he has dealt with world leaders before, he is not a stupid man, he knows how to play the game at different levels, (which I've been saying all along), and what he wants to do will actually destroy this little game of Risk that the US has been playing for some years. That's why they don't want him.
They have come after him with both barrels blazing - and all anyone can say is that he's "racist" and "is childish". Being illegal is not a race. Him saying the things he says is what got him to where he is right now because, "stupid Trump" read the people of this country extremely well. He knew what needed to be said to get support from the people who have had enough.
His tactics will change, for sure, and we will see that - to which I fully expect some idiot to come along and say that he either "is trying too hard" or "one of his handlers finally got to him and told him how to act", as if Trump didn't already know how to change tactics depending on the situation. You all call it what you want, the fact is, he knows how to read people, and that's how he wins.
And it scares the ever loving crap out of the establishment. But the establishment is so stupid, that every tactic they try backfires - including this horsecrap with all of these violent rioting thugs. What's going to happen, unfortunately, is that if the establishment is not careful, they are going to lose control of the violent thugs. The thugs will keep showing up for the pay, but the mob mentality can easily start to take over, pay or no pay.
As I said in another thread, this violence and rioting is bigger than Hillary, bigger than Sanders, bigger than Obama, bigger than the lying media.
You make good points but I highlighted one I disagree with to a certain level.....since we don't see the violence happening at clinton or sanders rallies, and almost exclusively at trump rallies, who do we think these people who are rioting support/have a silent allegiance to? For if they truly are anarchists/hate everything about politics in our nation, I think we would see equal rioting at trump, clinton, and sanders rallies. But we don't.
This is a red flag warning in my view that I and many others think it's coming from the left side to influence away from trump and to one or the other candidates. It smells planned/"professional", ie money is making it happen, to persuade away from voting trump and making the "other side" look better. It's beyond obvious to many. I think someone is bankrolling it and again, it's not on the right/trump side, that seems obvious.
But nothing in the article says that the attackers even knew this gentleman is gay.
That dude is so gay that even my blind half-senile grandmother knew he was a pole smoker before it was even mentioned.
And the reason it was easier "coming out" than it was to admit to being a Trump Supporter is that everyone already knew he was gay before he came out. Its hard to hid that much gayness even from Ray Charles. And why is his sexual orientation even part of the story, the bottom line is he got his ass licked ..urr I mean kicked and now he has his 15 minutes of fame but wants it to be gay fame
You make good points but I highlighted one I disagree with to a certain level.....since we don't see the violence happening at clinton or sanders rallies, and almost exclusively at trump rallies, who do we think these people who are rioting support/have a silent allegiance to? For if they truly are anarchists/hate everything about politics in our nation, I think we would see equal rioting at trump, clinton, and sanders rallies. But we don't.
This is a red flag warning in my view that I and many others think it's coming from the left side to influence away from trump and to one or the other candidates. It smells planned/"professional", ie money is making it happen, to persuade away from voting trump and making the "other side" look better. It's beyond obvious to many. I think someone is bankrolling it and again, it's not on the right/trump side, that seems obvious.
They aren't being paid to attend Clinton and Sanders rallies, they are being paid to attend Trump rallies. I do not believe that Hillary or Sanders are paying them, I believe it's establishment. Hillary may be part of the establishment, but as we all know, there's different levels to that.
It is absolutely planned and "professional", it's all being paid, but I think that we are forgetting one little thing here: The left and the right are not really different when it comes to establishment. There's no difference. It's not "left and right", it's simply "establishment". Who are they? Frankly I think those people who keep having their special little meetings are a big part of it.
The people who take the pay to do this ARE anarchists...or what they think anarchy is, which I don't think many of them have a clue, but they'll take the money from someone to go "protest", act like violent thugs, and destroy things. You pay a bunch of illegals $15 an hour to attack people, they'll do it.
I just don't agree with you about it being left vs right. When you get to the top of establishment, there is no left or right. Who threatens their way the most, however, is Trump. That's why they are paying people to go to Trump rallies and start a bunch of .... What they failed to foresee, however, is how that would backfire. Establishment thinks we are stupid...and some people in this country really are that they can't see what's going on...but if they truly had the power that they like everyone to believe they have, none of this would even be necessary.
I despise Hillary and think she needs to rot in prison for her crimes, but I wonder what do you expect her to do to stop these lunatics from rioting and attacking? She can't stop them. As I said in another thread, this violence and rioting is bigger than Hillary, bigger than Sanders, bigger than Obama, bigger than the lying media. Their lies are complicit in empowering these people to feel that it's acceptable to act like they do, but there's not a thing that Hillary can do about the violent thugs. She can tell them to stop all she wants, they aren't going to listen.
Up to the "they are just anti Trump" I agree with you. They aren't just "anti Trump" however. But I don't believe they are all liberals or Dems, nor do I believe most of them can or would vote. I believe a lot of them ARE illegals and the illegals' excuse makers who hate America. Someone is paying them, but I don't believe it's Sanders or Hillary.
Hillary is status quo...nothing will change under her.
Sanders is a socialist and everyone knows that if he got elected, half the stuff he wanted to do would never have happened.
Trump...that's another story. While many mock and call him stupid, the fact is, he is a very successful businessman worldwide, he has dealt with world leaders before, he is not a stupid man, he knows how to play the game at different levels, (which I've been saying all along), and what he wants to do will actually destroy this little game of Risk that the US has been playing for some years. That's why they don't want him.
They have come after him with both barrels blazing - and all anyone can say is that he's "racist" and "is childish". Being illegal is not a race. Him saying the things he says is what got him to where he is right now because, "stupid Trump" read the people of this country extremely well. He knew what needed to be said to get support from the people who have had enough.
His tactics will change, for sure, and we will see that - to which I fully expect some idiot to come along and say that he either "is trying too hard" or "one of his handlers finally got to him and told him how to act", as if Trump didn't already know how to change tactics depending on the situation. You all call it what you want, the fact is, he knows how to read people, and that's how he wins.
And it scares the ever loving crap out of the establishment. But the establishment is so stupid, that every tactic they try backfires - including this horsecrap with all of these violent rioting thugs. What's going to happen, unfortunately, is that if the establishment is not careful, they are going to lose control of the violent thugs. The thugs will keep showing up for the pay, but the mob mentality can easily start to take over, pay or no pay.
I wonder if it could be Mexican drug cartels paying them. I know it sounds far fetched, but Trump is the one candidate seriously threatening to curtail uncontrolled movement back and forth across the border, and he's the first politician I've seen in the US who is the subject of these violent rioters/criminals at rallies.
Trans border drug cartels probably really DON'T want people to elect this guy. So why not pay a few low level street associates who live nearby to go and intimidate potential voters?
They aren't being paid to attend Clinton and Sanders rallies, they are being paid to attend Trump rallies. I do not believe that Hillary or Sanders are paying them, I believe it's establishment. Hillary may be part of the establishment, but as we all know, there's different levels to that.
It is absolutely planned and "professional", it's all being paid, but I think that we are forgetting one little thing here: The left and the right are not really different when it comes to establishment. There's no difference. It's not "left and right", it's simply "establishment". Who are they? Frankly I think those people who keep having their special little meetings are a big part of it.
The people who take the pay to do this ARE anarchists...or what they think anarchy is, which I don't think many of them have a clue, but they'll take the money from someone to go "protest", act like violent thugs, and destroy things. You pay a bunch of illegals $15 an hour to attack people, they'll do it.
I just don't agree with you about it being left vs right. When you get to the top of establishment, there is no left or right. Who threatens their way the most, however, is Trump. That's why they are paying people to go to Trump rallies and start a bunch of .... What they failed to foresee, however, is how that would backfire. Establishment thinks we are stupid...and some people in this country really are that they can't see what's going on...but if they truly had the power that they like everyone to believe they have, none of this would even be necessary.
I think we are on the same page for the most part. And I think you make a good point about left/right. In our political system, I think it can be looked at more like team R vs D, a party more than anything trying to hold/gain power, just a different side of the same coin in the end for the most part, making ideological arguments often for show.
Isn't it ironic about the "anarchists".....taking money from one side to practice anarchy. That's priceless. But like you say, I think some like to wear a title/call themselves that but really aren't in the classic sense. A true anarchist wouldn't take money and play one side or the other, or the illusion of side. They are against it all.
But nothing in the article says that the attackers even knew this gentleman is gay. No epithets were said before the attack. So that's rather gratuitous and misleading to imply that he got his butt kicked because of his orientation.
I don't know why y'all assume that Trump protesters are liberals or Democrats. From the looks of things, I am entirely sure that most of them do not vote and/or cannot vote . . . many claim that most of them are illegals. They are just anti-Trump. This world is not binary between Democrats vs. Republicans, or liberals v. RWNJs. But you know that.
Mick
I didn't say he was beat up because he is gay. He mentions that he is a gay Hispanic, because the liberal narrative he says is that he can't be a Trump supporter. He is beat up, because he attended a Trump speech.
These violent liberals are liberals. They oppose Trump's conservative solutions to immigration they riot with Mexican flags and if they can vote or find a way to vote, will be doing so for Hillary.
Yes, just like the violent thugs protesting at every G-8 summit aren't liberals/liberal voters, the same with violent Ferguson protesters, violent Occupy Wall Street, etc...
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I despise Hillary and think she needs to rot in prison for her crimes, but I wonder what do you expect her to do to stop these lunatics from rioting and attacking?
I don't know or care if she can get results, but I expect her to side with peaceful discourse in a strong manner. I expect her to stop blaming Trump for these violent thug's actions and to start taking a strong stand against the violent thugs.
I criticized Trump for not taking a more aggressive stand against some of his idiots, well now Hillary is egging on much worse actions by blaming Trump for it.
These violent liberals are committing violent acts, because they made the choice to abandon peace and discourse - not because as Hillary says Trump created an environment where this behavior seems to be acceptable to the violent thugs.
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But like you say, I think some like to wear a title/call themselves that but really aren't in the classic sense. A true anarchist wouldn't take money and play one side or the other, or the illusion of side. They are against it all.
