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Old 06-16-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Are you going to counter with a link from InfoWars, Breitbart or Right Wing News?

Mick
No, he will use WND.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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Most Americans have no idea the hate agenda of these groups and the many targets, not just gays. Most also have no idea how easy it is to kill large numbers of people without guns. We need to focus on the people and groups that are attacking not the tool. They will only look for another tool as many tools are available in every community.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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I am a big time Trump supporter. I don't know how anyone can think Trump will win. He is getting demolished. I was wrong... I thought he would do well against Hillary... but she beat him down in 1 month. It's pretty much over already. Unfortunately, people just dont like Trump at all.
You get points for honesty.

Although it's not over til it's over, the Trump candidacy appears to be imploding and taking the GOP with it. It's been in the making for at least the last 8 years or so but this might be the year it all falls apart. I hope that a viable conservative party can emerge from this mess, because we need to hear all coherent views about the issues facing the U.S.

It's humorous in a disturbing way (or maybe disturbing in a humorous way) that every time someone posts a link to a story showing that a group or an individual has publicly disavowed Trump, the response is either (1) the source of the story is biased or (2) Trump doesn't need their support anyway. There's never an acknowledgment that Trump alienates people every time he opens his mouth.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:31 AM
 
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Nope. Real issues were raised. You can't address them and now simply attack the messengers instead.

The poll is bogus.
You have shown zero evidence of the survey results being manipulated . . . . just complaints about how the numbers were or weren't picked randomly. If the results were close, your argument might have a merit. But with 510 to 240 result, any "noise" from the process not being 100% random would be immaterial in the final result. If you score 20 on your math test, the warm temperature in the classroom wasn't the reason why you didn't get a 90 . . . maybe you would have had 30 or even 35 in a more comfortable setting, but that's about it.

You have zero evidence that the survey takers kept calling until they found 51% that disapprove of Mr. Trump's approach. You cannot possibly know this. If they wanted to skew this in favor of Hillary, why not make it higher to help her out more, like 60%, 70%, 80%?

Mick
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:36 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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You get points for honesty.

Although it's not over til it's over, the Trump candidacy appears to be imploding and taking the GOP with it. It's been in the making for at least the last 8 years or so but this might be the year it all falls apart. I hope that a viable conservative party can emerge from this mess, because we need to hear all coherent views about the issues facing the U.S.

It's humorous in a disturbing way (or maybe disturbing in a humorous way) that every time someone posts a link to a story showing that a group or an individual has publicly disavowed Trump, the response is either (1) the source of the story is biased or (2) Trump doesn't need their support anyway. There's never an acknowledgment that Trump alienates people every time he opens his mouth.
I have to admit I am surprised by it all. I really thought general election voters would rally behind Trump. But let's be fair . He is getting crushed by Hillary. I love everything that Trump says. But most people prefer Hillary. It's so obvious she is going to win.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I am a big time Trump supporter. I don't know how anyone can think Trump will win. He is getting demolished. I was wrong... I thought he would do well against Hillary... but she beat him down in 1 month. It's pretty much over already. Unfortunately, people just dont like Trump at all.
I am with you there.

Mr. Trump didn't do well in the past month.

It was a fatal mistake that he attacked that judge based on his heritage, then this whole soldiers stealing in iraq thing..

I like Mr. Trump, but I think you are right, majority of the folks don't seem to like him that much.

People I know in real life, well, the die hard Trump fans haven't changed. They belong to the ""I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose votes" crowd, but he perhaps pushed the true independent and undecided away in the past month. I don't think these independent or undecided folks all of sudden label Mr. Trump as racists, I think they want to see Mr. Trump sounding a bit like stateman, not happening..
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Ahh. The same Associated Press that reported that Hillary had won the nomination when she hadn't. This to suppress Bernie's support.

You are right. It does says it all.
Breaking Fox Terrier News!!!

Fox Terrier heard the man utter those words!!!

Neither the AP nor Fox Terrier News made up those words, spoken yesterday!
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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You have shown zero evidence of the survey results being manipulated .
Never said it was manipulated. I said it was bogus and we explained why. You simply refuse to address it.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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I have to admit I am surprised by it all. I really thought general election voters would rally behind Trump. But let's be fair . He is getting crushed by Hillary. I love everything that Trump says. But most people prefer Hillary. It's so obvious she is going to win.
I think that when we have strong feelings of support for a candidate that it's always surprising to hear that person criticized harshly, or to realize that there are so many people who don't feel the same way you do. Although I don't agree with everything Obama has done, I have the highest regard for how he and Michelle have conducted themselves in office. IMO, they both seem to handle everything that comes their way with intelligence, grace, patience and when appropriate, a wonderful sense of humor. I cannot believe some of the things people say about them and wonder if we're seeing the same people in the White House.

I may be naive, but I've never believed what some people say about there being paid posters on C-D. But some people are so dogged in their determination to argue that Trump isn't losing support that I do wonder if they're being paid to post.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:46 AM
 
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I have to admit I am surprised by it all. I really thought general election voters would rally behind Trump. But let's be fair . He is getting crushed by Hillary. I love everything that Trump says. But most people prefer Hillary. It's so obvious she is going to win.
Either way, it is good to see that other pro-Trump posters are not attacking you for expressing your views. Props for that.

Mick
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