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Yes, it is a positive. 36 48.00%
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Old 07-04-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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So, you think Donny gave large sums of $$$ to politicians for any other reason than buying them off? Hysterical how Donny's Kool-Aid drinkers rationalize this sleaze ball as an 'outsider' and something other than a typical, lying politician.

BTW, your ignorance is showing, I'm not a "hillary voter".
Of course he bought them off. He admitted it many times/said that's how the game works. Donations get favors/results. He and sander's brought this point front and center many times and I think it finally woke up some people who were asleep on the matter.

So if you're not a hillary voter, you still haven't clarified.....why do you pick on him when other establishment politicians do the same, serve themselves/the donors first and not the people? What's worse is politicians are SUPPOSE to serve the people FIRST. Like/hate trump, that's a person primary # 1 job who owns/runs a business....to serve the company first. He's doing what he is suppose to do. So given now you're not a hillary voter/supporter but I'm guessing you will vote for some politician that serves their donors, not the people first, and given I'm sure this isn't news for you(?), why no outrage in your posts over this aspect of who politicians serve first? Why pick on a businessman who's job indeed is to serve the company first, stating the obvious?

It's obvious you dislike trump. We got it. You have that right of course. But at least use consistent logic/arguments that make sense to make your point as where you stand now, you are most inconsistent in your lack of criticism of establishment politicians if your "concern" is truly over people getting bought off.

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Old 07-04-2016, 01:45 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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WHEN/WHERE has he ever been in a position to put policies in place that impact the country? But look at the way his sleazy business practices have affected places like Atlantic City and it's difficult to believe he'd be any better with the country, his only interest is his interests.
I live in NJ. Atlantic City turned into a disaster when Indian reservations started building casinos. AC had a monopoly in the Northeast, with its nearest competitor on the other side of the country, in Nevada. People used to travel from all over the east coast to go to Atlantic City to gamble. That trip is no longer necessary as people have casinos right in their own state. All of the casinos were hurting, not just Trump's casinos. It had nothing to do with "sleazy business practices". And I'm not denying that there were any sleazy business practices. This is the gambling industry after all. But there was nothing about Trumps business practices that made him stand out in the crowd as "extra sleazy".
 
Old 07-04-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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No indictment against Hillary is a major positive for the Trump campaign.


My washer should spin so good!
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:05 PM
 
Location: North America
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Difference is, Hillary has already proven that she is a failure as senator and SOS. When it comes to Trump, the libs rely on pure speculation to what they THINK he might do as President.
Perception is important though. All the average voter sees is two people that they don't like a lot with one with far more experience than the other. That might not matter in the end of course. People might be so interested in making a change that they will give him a shot. It's not a good idea to bank on that though. They might view his inability to do nothing but attack her as a weakness and be less keen on backing him due to it.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:06 PM
 
Location: North America
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Just because Trump had to play the game, doesn't mean he made the rules,
and it certainly doesn't mean he preferred the corruption.
Trump is corrupt. You are fooling yourself if you think a man that is a billionaire dealing in real estate is a pure as snow.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
So, you think Donny gave large sums of $$$ to politicians for any other reason than buying them off? Hysterical how Donny's Kool-Aid drinkers rationalize this sleaze ball as an 'outsider' and something other than a typical, lying politician.

BTW, your ignorance is showing, I'm not a "hillary voter".
Donald Trump is a Billionaire Businessman/ Builder. He operates for the most part is strong Democrat States - New York, New Jersey, Chicago - all with a maze of Regulations that would choke a horse. He makes Political Donations and I guess some folks (the NeverTrumpers) believe that Donald Trump is the very first Businessman in the entire History of the USA to make a Political ][urlDonation.

His entire History over the last 26 years of Political Donations is readily available - although it doesn't suit the myth & narrative of the NeverTrump/Pro-Hillary crowd .... which have morphed into the same crowd in our Bizzaro world

Donald Trump's campaign contributions to Democrats and Republicans |Politifact

Information compiled from Federal Election Commission & OpenSecrets :
Donald Trump, Federal Contributions to Democratic Candidates and PACs, 1989-present

We are talking about over a 26 year period (beginning in 1989) for a Multi-Billionaire. This is not what any reasonable person would call $$$ and it's sure not enough to "buy off" anyone since most of these are pretty small potatoes of under (sometimes way under) $5,000 to individuals. George Soros & Warren Buffett beat that every single year.

Grand Totals:
$961,140 -- Republicans
$584,850 -- Democrats
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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The poll question was related to thing that help/hurt the campaign, not policy specific. Your question obviously has no answer because he isn't a politician...yet. However he seems to like to self sabotage his own campaign every chance he gets.
I don't see it that way. I believe the media exaggerates and has Trump under a microscope because they are in the tank for Hillary.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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There is no doubt Trump wants to campaign against Hillary, not Biden.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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There is no doubt Trump wants to campaign against Hillary, not Biden.
It will be much easier against her. The debates should be interesting. I can't picture Hillary going through with it unless she has a lot of pre-arranged help from the moderators if you know what I mean. Maybe a meeting in a private hangar between Bill and the network heads? Trump will cut through it either way.
 
Old 07-04-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: United States
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Fair enough. Although 2200 to 40 to 4?
No, this report came out a year ago, when they had only reviewed 40 of the about 30,000 emails Hillary turned over. Of the 40 emails, 4 of the emails contained information that was classified at the time they were sent, or received. This report initiated the FBI criminal investigation.

Of the emails that Hillary turned over (remember that she turned over less than half of her emails) there were 2200 classified emails, 22 of which were top secret. Some of the emails included Special Access Program information, these are the most secretive programs in the government.
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