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Old 07-22-2016, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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No.
Clinton has bobbed up and down in her polls. That's a sign of no ceiling yet.

Unlike Trump, whose floor is his ceiling. His polls haven't moved in either direction for months now, and the best he does is still below Clinton by 2 points.

Trump has to capture more voters to win, period. Clinton will win right where she's at right now.
Exactly. Trump may have the old white male vote locked up but it's not enough.

He's burned his bridges with people of color, and is trailing among college-educated white women (which is a segment that Romney got).

For Clinton, she already has established ties with the core constituencies and she just has to turn them out to vote. Fortunately she has already set up extensive state field operations (ground game) for that, while Trump has neglected that, and is more dependent on state GOP organizations to do GOTV.
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Old 07-22-2016, 08:43 PM
 
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Exactly. Trump may have the old white male vote locked up but it's not enough.

He's burned his bridges with people of color, and is trailing among college-educated white women (which is a segment that Romney got).

For Clinton, she already has established ties with the core constituencies and she just has to turn them out to vote. Fortunately she has already set up extensive state field operations (ground game) for that, while Trump has neglected that, and is more dependent on state GOP organizations to do GOTV.
trump's problem is he's for america and people care more about themselves than they do for america, and hillary panders to voting groups by not talking about the wall, not talking about cleaning things up because she doesn't want to offend anyone who might vote for her...she's doing everything to win and in order to do that, she can't put america first or anywhere close to first.
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Old 07-23-2016, 12:08 AM
 
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No, sorry--I see no "pickle." It will work to her advantage. Her voters agree with your assessment of Trump, and will turn out big time to vote and ensure he gets nowhere near the WH or nuclear codes.

Hillary doesn't have the ego or alpha male baggage that Trump has and has no problem telling people he could win if they don't get out and vote. I've read this straight from her campaign.




Of course, with all of her baggage she needs to beg & plead.
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