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I'm so frustrated with both sides - as are many of my friends - that I was seriously considering just abstaining from voting at all. I'm leaning towards Gary Johnson, but I really disagree with his positions on privatizing prisons and schools. Otherwise I agree with most of his stances (or can at least tolerate them). I'll be researching a lot more in the next few months . . . but for now he is where I'm leaning.
The way I feel about it is that none of the single platform items will pass at this time. What I am voting for is someone who pretty much reflects my value system with the aim of beginning a construction of a new type of government that isn't corrupt and exists for itself and not the people of is supposed to serve. There 5% threshold for public funding is extremely important so every vote counts.
My sympathies lie with Johnson (and more so, with Weld); I've participated in the libertarian (small 'l', please) movement since its beginnings in the late Sixties.
But on Election day, I will hold my nose and vote for Trump, and would encourage Johnson and the Libertarians to throw their support to him, and build an "anti-progressive" coalition; at this point, it's more important to derail (and try to destroy = once and for all -- the Clinton/Obama coalition which is trying to turn our nation into a one-party sham of democracy).
Trump will make mistakes from the start, and get a hard lesson in the practice of realpolitik; but if his partners are more familiar with capitalism (local being more important than global) than Chicago gangsterism, the necessary adjustments can be made.
Me? I'm voting for Jill Stein. We're share very similar value systems.
No you're not, you may mark your ballot for Jill, but you will be putting the wicked witch of Benghazi into the WH, where she will put the final nail into America's coffin....
No you're not, you may mark your ballot for Jill, but you will be putting the wicked witch of Benghazi into the WH, where she will put the final nail into America's coffin....
The people who voted for Clinton in the primaries and are voting for her in the general election are the people supporting her election. You should talk to them. I'm not voting for her.
My sympathies lie with Johnson (and more so, with Weld); I've participated in the libertarian (small 'l', please) movement since its beginnings in the late Sixties.
But on Election day, I will hold my nose and vote for Trump, and would encourage Johnson and the Libertarians to do the same; at this point, it's more important to derail (and try to destroy = once and for all -- the Clinton/Obama coalition which is trying to tur our nation into a one-party sham of democracy).
Trump will make mistakes from the start, and get a hard lesson in the practice of realpolitik; but if his partners are more familiar with capitalism (local being more important than global) than Chicago gangsterism, the necessary adjustments can be made.
One can reasonably make the argument that Trump is a more anti-Establishment vote than typical Republican nominees. But he's said alot of stuff in getting to this point and it is easy to make a strong case for the Libertarian candidate.
As I talk to my friends, I do not detect any passion for Clinton among any demographic other than Baby Boomers who are somehow tethered to the corrupt government machine. I believe that Michael Moore is correct and that Clinton will lose swing states and the polls are inaccurate because they are overcounting certain demographics and undercounting others based upon previous elections. I believe this is a more Brexit year as opposed to one of Hope and Change.
Usually passion wins, and I am hoping enough people feel as passionate as I do about corruption in government and vote for a third-party candidate in order to fracture the Single-party System.
Are people motivated more by passion or fear? That's why the boomers are likely to vote for Hillary, they fear the unknown will affect their retirement, at least with Hillary she's easier to predict. It's probably wishful thinking to expect to purge corruption from our system of government, but a revolution has to begin somewhere. If the establishment loses control of the propaganda machine, there's a chance at regaining our democracy.
No you're not, you may mark your ballot for Jill, but you will be putting the wicked witch of Benghazi into the WH, where she will put the final nail into America's coffin....
These asinine assumptions need to end. I know in my case I have been told this so many times "If you vote for Gary Johnson, you are really just voting for [insert terrible candidate name] to win"
Here is the simple math on what makes these assumptions 100% wrong:
1. t206 will vote for Gary Johnson
2. IF for some reason Gary Johnson isn't on the ballot t206 will look at other 3rd party candidates to find one who I align with.
3. IF no 3rd party candidate aligns with my ideals, I will write someone in
Notice how none of those scenarios involve my vote going to Trump or Clinton?
This backwards and illogical assumption that my vote would somehow go to one of these idiots if I didn't vote for Johnson is 100% incorrect and not based in logic. I know I can't speak for everyone on this, but I also know I'm not only speaking for myself.
These asinine assumptions need to end. I know in my case I have been told this so many times "If you vote for Gary Johnson, you are really just voting for [insert terrible candidate name] to win"
Here is the simple math on what makes these assumptions 100% wrong:
1. t206 will vote for Gary Johnson
2. IF for some reason Gary Johnson isn't on the ballot t206 will look at other 3rd party candidates to find one who I align with.
3. IF no 3rd party candidate aligns with my ideals, I will write someone in
Notice how none of those scenarios involve my vote going to Trump or Clinton?
This backwards and illogical assumption that my vote would somehow go to one of these idiots if I didn't vote for Johnson is 100% incorrect and not based in logic. I know I can't speak for everyone on this, but I also know I'm not only speaking for myself.
Jill Stein-hopefully I'll get to meet her and speak with her this weekend and upcoming week when she is in Philly.
She's going to be in Connecticut tonight. Big push to get on all 50 ballots note that she has the money.
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